Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg09.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINMG093-a324a96b0b5301; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:14:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG094-a324a96b0b5301; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:13:46 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mghas-0000Sj-Jn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:12:58 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mghas-0000SZ-30 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:12:58 +0100 Received: from ttsmtp-2.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.243] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgha3-00040J-LT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:12:08 +0100 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAEAD5NlkpZ8ITJ/2dsb2JhbACCVoIhiHMGzACEGQU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.132.201]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2009 17:12:30 +0100 Message-ID: <009c01ca2731$2d5e0e60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <9afca2640908261406r3ced27fr31bbca942848a291@mail.gmail.com> <005701ca2707$438a4570$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640908270502q3136dd1cjf52d2666eedeed94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:12:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA2739.8EF9DFC0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA2739.8EF9DFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger I know all about it and can decode it but I am not impressed. I= can do better on CW and have worked some good DX to date especially= X BAND. I tx on 500 and listen HF like 7 Mhz. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? Mel, et al, The bandwidth of an FSK WSPR transmisson is just 6Hz (six Hertz) -= hardly "cluttering up" the bands me thinks? Transmissions are sent in= time slots, so that 10 users could share a single 6Hz slot and in, sa= y 200Hz (the band slot the WSPR software searches for decodable signal= s), one could fit all the users currently active on 136 and 500kHz!! Think about it. Best regards Roger G3XBM=20 2009/8/27 mal hamilton Roger The majority of operators over the years prefer CW on LF and MF.= These bands are narrow and we do not want the few Khz available clutt= ered up with data modes, especially Beacons.=20 Those countries with several Khz allocated like the USA have suffi= cient space to provide slots for all modes, different story.=20 I am on LF and MF daily using normal CW if you would like a QSO.= =20 73 De mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: LF: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? What is the dial setting frequency (USB) for 137kHz WSPR and are= there any particular date/times when WSPR is being used? I'd like to= listen. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.69/2328 - Release Date= : 08/26/09 12:16:00 --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.69/2328 - Release Date: 08= /26/09 12:16:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CA2739.8EF9DFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger I know all about it and can&nbs= p;decode it=20 but I am not impressed. I can do better on CW and have worked some goo= d DX to=20 date especially X BAND.
I tx on 500 and listen HF like 7 Mhz.=
mal/g3kev
 
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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 20= 09 1:02=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz= WSPR - what=20 frequency?

Mel, et al,

The bandwidth of an FSK WSPR trans= misson is=20 just 6Hz (six Hertz)  - hardly "cluttering up" th= e bands me=20 thinks? Transmissions are sent in time slots, so that 10 users could= share a=20 single 6Hz slot and in, say 200Hz (the band slot the WSPR software= searches=20 for decodable signals), one could fit all the users currently act= ive on=20 136 and 500kHz!!

Think about it.

Best regards
Roger=
G3XBM=20



2009/8/27 mal hamilton = <g3kevmal@talktalk.t>
Roger
The majority of operators over th= e years prefer=20 CW on LF and MF. These bands are narrow and we do not want th= e=20 few Khz available cluttered up with data modes, especial= ly=20 Beacons.
Those countries with several Khz= allocated like=20 the USA have sufficient space to provide slots for all modes, diff= erent=20 story.
I am on LF and MF daily using nor= mal CW if you=20 would like a QSO.
73 De mal/g3kev
 
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent:=20 Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject:=20 LF: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency?

What is the dial setting frequency (USB) for 137k= Hz WSPR=20 and are there any particular date/times when WSPR is being used?= I'd like=20 to listen.

73s
Roger
G3XBM

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