Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINMG084-9f84a97b0d434d; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:26:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG022-9f84a97b0d434d; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:26:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MgyeD-00043B-Jy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:25:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MgyeD-000432-5o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:25:33 +0100 Received: from ttsmtp-4.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.245] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MgydO-0004AC-C5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:24:42 +0100 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAJdNl0pZ8Etb/2dsb2JhbACEedMpgieBcgU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.75.91]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2009 11:25:04 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01ca27c9$cefc9550$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <9afca2640908261406r3ced27fr31bbca942848a291@mail.gmail.com> <005701ca2707$438a4570$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640908270502q3136dd1cjf52d2666eedeed94@mail.gmail.com> <009c01ca2731$2d5e0e60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640908271133v7eea7f18r7855a822514399a4@mail.gmail.com> <847F3A04E31C413A81AD022BDC11AD46@JimPC> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:25:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Who are the 'us guys' the majority of LF/MF operators are on CW, have a look at the list of operators that I sent yesterday. Jim you appear the odd time and your CW has got worse I expect its WSPR for you or nothing. By all means ignore my observations but I get a lot of positive feedback from experienced radio amateurs and professionals in the electronics field and Nonsense most of the time from data Appliance Operators. CW requires operator skill but machine generated data modes only needs an observer. Watch the kettle boil operator. Commercial operators use data modes to shift large amounts of information, hardly a requirement for a radio amateur exchanging name and signal strength. CW is ideally suited for short real time exchanges between radio amateurs. g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? > Dear Roger, LF Group, > > Please bear in mind that G3KEV does not speak for "us guys", only himself. > Over the years we have learned to ignore him most of the time - if we took > much notice, we would all have given up a long time ago. > > If you look in the WSPR on-line database specifying the band as "LF/VLF", > you will see that there has been quite a lot of WSPR activity over the > last > year on 136k and 500k, which has been one of the more successful digital > modes in this part of the spectrum. The points you make regarding narrow > bandwidth and low power are certainly useful at LF/MF. The summer months > are > usually rather lacking in activity due to the short nights and high QRN, > but > activity, no doubt including WSPR, will be picking up soon as we get into > autumn. > > The M0BMU LF/MF station is currently QRT due to a recent visit from > relatives - all those pretty coloured wires and 3-year-olds don't really > mix! It will probably be put back together this weekend though, so if you > are interested in trying WSPR on 136k or 500k, let me know. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Lapthorn" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? > > > ...But it's *not* my place to tell you guys how to use the LF bands so > with >> this, I'll leave you to it and get back on 10m WSPR, CW and SSB. Good >> luck >> with whatever modes you enjoy. >> >> Roger >> 73s >> G3XBM > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.69/2328 - Release Date: 08/26/09 12:16:00