Return-Path: Received: from rly-df01.mx.aol.com (rly-df01.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.14]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-5264a5dfa24135; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:47:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF013-5264a5dfa24135; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:47:50 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MR6hA-0007Ni-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:47:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MR6hA-0007NZ-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:47:00 +0100 Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MR6gy-000640-8K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:46:49 +0100 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABFF58QJAAFEXTA for (sender ); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:46:16 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewNBQFsbdNq/HB49/fsZlo5yld2uBBi8CQQ== Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id PMH8GX8G; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:45:16 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:44:18 -0400 Message-ID: <20090715.114419.120.0.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-15,17,19-62 From: riese-k3djc@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 23:11:4281526217 X-MAIL-INFO:2f157db905100d9031e9849190a51910b0e5c0492049b0e1c921e4a961943dd500f15125d475c90d511db1d035fded1465a41559e424417df41d9445ed54c411382585f02111457db514853911d9e1016004 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|outbound-jn.vgs.untd.com|riese-k3djc@juno.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: Re: LF: Microwave oven transformers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:57:11 +0100 "Alan Melia" writes: > Hi all, I am very please to see not everyone sticks to a 12 volt > maximum > supply voltage > :-)) > > One though that occurs to me is that if one side of the MO > transformer is > grounded in oven service........one ought to check that the winding > as a > whole is sufficiently well insulated from ground to stand floating > 2kV above > ground. The one I use in DC service has the ground end lifted. I have had no problems using this in a supply for my 2 meter amp. I series 2 for my Tesla coil and have had no problems either,,, I do find that it is amazing that they hold up well just keep one hand in your pocket when messing about the shunts do something to limit current and removing is a simple process,, they make for a very good H V supply transformer Bob K3DJC There may not be the same clearance /insulation on the > grounded end > of the secondary as the intended high-voltage end?? On the other > hand it > might be quite OK. I have a certain cynicism about "consumer > designs". > > Alan G3NYK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: Re: LF: Microwave oven transformers > > > These special transformers need the magnetic bypass because a > magnetron > looks (as a load) like a Z diode. > So they are powered, more or less, with a constant current source > rather > than a constant voltage source. > > In other words, the "generator" (transformer) must have a large > source > impedance, and that's what the magnetic bypass in the 'former does. > > Cheers, > Wolf . > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSSjbrNHSYJPGSy9kAhb573ZR02rTzJdHeySxW4dn7ddwp4z4U/