Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de01.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINDE013-4cd4a5e5bf237e; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:45:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE044-4cd4a5e5bf237e; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:45:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MRDCT-0001Mk-JB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:43:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MRDCS-0001Mb-TH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:43:44 +0100 Received: from smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MRDCH-0008Mn-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:43:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 76895 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2009 22:43:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZDd/9OMt4KqVJb83/ExyEDg6oowrdjncKdzmy7wkB3ylJ4op4EbEX5+Wl5m/Sfcogbe3R1spHSVTlTb39gMVIaRNVG29j9Sm3QX176Bitr+dFuO04OHbBArZPDh4P6vJfHYOQrFHr2O9LOpa2bxvsUSphBAfAz9Aa5pD9LvVHR4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.35.91 with login) by smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2009 22:43:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: SxgyD_kVM1ntFcL.OwNITC9oI_.GDJOHZYCyBxFJcGWsfpJxDpqZrqvAFqAgRZBRUPdFteV2Ss5Y1iAm5DXxxmCcYIglTky.1nT5BpcREMxa9mheexp2fDilHCUR6OPBL.hkC8yUo_2qrVUA5GCdHnD9mYSEZoET6wbqgOxEF1ClXEeiIHsoNPCoF5ucuB4nEJVfgdDUsadWa9QnDb.LPgAOI4GXGmLYe63HxB7H88dUWjRLAgP.2QP0j.bJVPxFi8j1arhrRpXk0YwlJA2kObq335kYMLd5WneWuw9ey3roEciaQng38rwxkhD94YqjIjcvn8uG.TPiHyEg.6XMxMAhMGSPF.rnLLL2 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00bc01ca059d$bd1bcac0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20090715.172949.3828.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:40:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: Re: LF: Microwave oven transformers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Great but of "recycling" Bob :-)) Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: LF: Microwave oven transformers > > On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:59:44 +0100 "Alan Melia" > writes: > > Hi Ken yes I appreciate the usage. I was a little concerned that if > > the > > transformer was not designed for that kind of use it might not > > necessarily > > have sufficent insulation from that end of the winding to ground to > > survive > > the different stresses of of bridge rectifier. However Bob says he > > has been > > using one like that for years so I guess they must have been > > conservatively > > designed. I have had problems with transformers parallel primaries > > and > > series secondaries ( a common way of getting high voltages for > > valves ....in > > my youth :-)) ) breaking down under the voltage stress. I have > > several > > transformers I salvaged from MOs and I now feel a lot happier about > > their > > I was able to mount a porcelain stand off at the same hole the ground lug > was mounted to ,, I think I then added a gob of clear silicon from the > local > hardware store,,, was surprised that it held up,, but it did > > Bob K3DJC > > > > use in HV PSUs. In the 50s.60s I was brought up with thick > > insulation and > > porcelain standoffs :-)) > > > > An interesting thread. > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK