Return-Path: Received: from rly-de08.mx.aol.com (rly-de08.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.144]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-4f94a41362f152; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:08:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de08.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE088-4f94a41362f152; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:08:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MJCHG-0000L3-0G for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:34 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MJCHF-0000Ku-JS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:33 +0100 Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.67]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MJCHE-0005Al-9k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 65891 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2009 20:07:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=tRz+qUzDtRA4qnjnky2JUvkXSb0HivNBxGtm4maVAcS4tETsEw2zKmdC7XtUv6EVMdDq82Rb5QqYnY4DfxxxLaV4pV9Hvlu0wFg+OXYTlrppYGGLzAwgqK68MqkWCFCcFd0nKx377rjd8xI7/mItoX0PpC1Si+WoF6bbk7KkjEo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.184.72 with login) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2009 20:07:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: 9VGdIJsVM1n9zU9W2110iiOqFRq41PCly6Du3bh6.lQHr210LROoXRiTlXsmu0HMnzECdzwoosxlq6Mh_XjI5ExObc35mmr1XEhdQwUqtlQ_BozlAqKRRlXb_0fuF.povAUT1lkFhnMac3rY6YGt8NxTVKa9_LeS0l3rqEHKadtDj384BfDQB5V73h1E2V8Pj94_Skogt0SbwVYwASunQg6mlX4fMeeXDF9jubY4DiAOKMYzvCA8Y7WLGDu32ioxGEiHmPsAPyMh_SAP83oHYHSlmDSOtjxOqFjmzeOmNvhDCoBdoUw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "James Moritz" To: References: <1245582735.4291.6.camel@gerhard-laptop> <33D6A4990B7B45149663D84D52C052CA@JimPC> <1245595125.3782.14.camel@gerhard-laptop> <4A3E7EE4.9060209@a1.net> <1245612298.13715.100.camel@gerhard-desktop> <4545BAC9D97544A7A487534566391CD7@JimPC> <1245618472.13715.111.camel@gerhard-desktop> <3DA6235AEC4C4D5F918803BF8E4B64C5@Black> In-Reply-To: <3DA6235AEC4C4D5F918803BF8E4B64C5@Black> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137khz RX-Test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Markus, LF Group, Thanks for the screen shot from Sunday night > The appended clip shows four of your sequence repetitions, as seen in a > high resolution 21 mHz FFT - of course not readable but > still showing consecutive dashes as a line in the upper trace and a gap in > the lower one. The emission appears to be phase coherent > across symbols of the same type, but not across frequency switching. > Apparently the shift does not happen to be an exact integer > multiple of the symbol rate, and after returning to the original frequency > the phase has lapsed by some amount. > The DFCW was generated, via sound-card output and transverter, by DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab "Digimode Terminal", set to 0.2 symbols/s and 2Hz shift. I think that would make some of the inter-symbol spaces 2.5s, so not an exact multiple of 0.2s maybe? I guess Wolf could confirm exactly how the phase is determined... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU