Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINMG062-9f54a3d653534e; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:40:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG017-9f54a3d653534e; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:39:52 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MI9CV-0005oC-Vz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:38:19 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MI9CV-0005o3-CN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:38:19 +0100 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MI9CT-00064n-Vh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:38:19 +0100 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a3d64cd7; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:38:05 -0400 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id l.c0c.60542461 (37098) for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([92.20.111.237]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB078-90ea4a3d64c93d; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:38:02 -0400 From: pat gillen To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007901c9f1d2$43cdd980$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <006301c9f1cb$96328c40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4A3D1D60.9020002@btconnect.com> <007901c9f1d2$43cdd980$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:38:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1245537481.6256.26.camel@pat-desktop-dell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: amateur radio Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, It might just be worth remembering that the original pioneers knew absolutely "zilch" about the science, art or technology we now use. The "expertise" some of us claim is based on an almost stone age past. Bits of wire inserted into pieces of coke, Tesla coils and arcs, electric light bulbs with extra bits of wire, jam jars with foil liners, bottles of acid with lumps of zinc and lead, G9BF running 8 parallel 807 connected to the DC mains overheads outside in the street? A lot of us have been there and thankfully have moved on despite our nostalgic yearnings for our Teddyboy, Mods'n'Rocker, Duffle-coated, Luminescent ankle socks past (a few of us even stood by our beds and said "Yes Corporal")! The science is still the same but the techniques and methodology have moved on. After you've gone there will still be guys doing radio in some form or other and, rest assured, they will still be following the same old footsteps - because they have to - physics doesn't change. As an example I just spent an hour or two fixing a 1 Ghz counter - with a multimeter - not "rocket science" - just "where did the volts go?". Same old rules - same old answers! An electrolytic or two later, we're up and running! So, the modern generation use the internet etc,? Well, sod it! So did I - to get the manual that gave me the gen. to fix the counter! Your grapes must have the sourest taste on this group if not on the whole internet. I wonder if you've tried them with litmus paper or perhaps (and God forbid the scientific diatribe we might get) a pH meter? 73 de Pat G4gvw On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 19:09 +0100, mal hamilton wrote: > Sri > Beaming East in DX mode > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Newstead" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: amateur radio > > > > mal hamilton wrote: > >> no one in QSO mode. > > > > > > I called CQ several times. You are simply not trying hard enough. > > > > 73 > > > > Richard > > G3CWI > > >