Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b4b4a00e68f196; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:23:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC107-b4b4a00e68f196; Tue, 05 May 2009 21:23:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M1VqO-0004lS-NR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 02:22:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M1VqO-0004lJ-6M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 02:22:44 +0100 Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1VqM-0007iW-9K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 02:22:44 +0100 Received: from DR2 ([71.184.212.10]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KJ700ETM7TIOPZ7@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 20:22:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "dave.riley3" To: References: <000301c9bc43$b366cfa0$6401a8c0@radiocomputer> <4A00A343.3080806@g3ysx.org.uk> <9B3F74AF2AC642BB8C3317606C3D01A1@DR2> <00a201c9cddb$8d8f9920$0900a8c0@AM> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:22:29 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 600MRG> T or F? Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ahhh, yep, more advantages than an antenna add could sell... Location = Everything... Salt water, go with the Marconi... Crummy soil ( everywhere ) and lots of vegetation ?? = Go Magnetic... Not quite an axiom, but pretty good advice... Don't forget the more quiet receive too... TNX de Dave WD2XSH/17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 600MRG> T or F? > Hi Dave ask why people use invL and T's. Well if you took your trees away > and put up an inv L of the same size you would have a bigger signal > (field-strength) than would be given by the loop. Amongst the trees the > loop > works better. Its location, location, location that matters, not old wives > tales, or even old commercial antenna books (they dont put "little" > antennas > up in the middle of forests !! for good reasons) > > Keep pumping the LF watts out man !! :-)) > Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave.riley3" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 600MRG> T or F? > > >> A big black ferrite that works down there... >> >> Bifilar wound 1:1 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stewart Bryant" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:36 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: Re: 600MRG> T or F? >> >> >> > Dave >> >> >> >> Exhibit #1 www.radiocom.net/600M/LOOP109.jpg >> > >> > An interesting design - what are you using as a broadband match in >> > xformer for the 200KHz - HF? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Stewart/G3YSX >> > >> > >> > >> > >