Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-91749ff901a73; Mon, 04 May 2009 21:02:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-91749ff901a73; Mon, 04 May 2009 21:02:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M191s-0008ML-Tk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 02:01:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M191s-0008MC-Hk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 02:01:04 +0100 Received: from smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M191p-0005oD-JQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 May 2009 02:01:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 65300 invoked from network); 5 May 2009 01:00:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4G0abTnHRphKI8cGuW8MMlpNCJBhG8ZjgsY9bGY16ukgoTap00suoe9zcxq5N0ueAeKUjOfasSay9Kh7V+V4YD3cWD4vU+2QfHz4CKsH0yNp+rHAgeeIVZWI64iKlHHFi+wP8QVq2Tfdfzn2iYsaGabXCUd4pfyoU6aAK84JFnk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.177.110.22 with login) by smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2009 01:00:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5z_ZyA0VM1kCdhJleuiCmjOgYHCXPRy1eR6pGBanQNFfmCWw5FwVafd3TdT0_dvPM2z9kJDhoCsbad2HCzUdk0deyaWfRBTKntbS0OnsyxhJCayl6isuJbfH2FP6Uer1hXJKlYXx1TeUjycl_5uzOohtc6rolREW3D9XsJZSKPz3tGbUr6Blr8qJ70Ss0UQcfZpIaw7HbtYA5ttfSNLwqXdnaJ0MzZ9NlOc5LfoQkuxdjALeQF_o6biuYvMnNM1MF0Hn0swp2zADbtL.XoaBEWbYuVTPVN9GVoF_chvZo1_xMyKKrxo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9ADAE0806D17400EBA500453FF36AF90@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <260286.17766.qm@web28508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <8bf118410905040810m1fb41016pab9a1c0a7c79bf06@mail.gmail.com> <106017.93017.qm@web28508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <106017.93017.qm@web28508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:00:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Field Strength Meter - advice needed Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Chris, LF Group, ...>>>> The problem's before the mixer. As advised, I disconnected the RF stage and injected a signal into the mixer and it gives a constant output even with a blow heater playing on the insides. >>>>... So that narrows it down to the ferrite rod antenna circuit or the FET preamp. Injecting the signal directly into the preamp input should tell you which it is. ...>>>> I've spent a few more hours on the F/S meter today and still have not found the problem. I can blow with a drinking straw on any component and there's very little output change yet with time there's a slow drift with temperature - the output goes up with increased temperature. >>>... At the moment, my bet would be on the ferrite rod antenna. The transconductance of a FET (JFET or MOSFET) certainly varies with temperature, but generally decreases with increasing temp, so the output level should fall as the temperature rises, and probably not as much as you are observing. Since the output of the ferrite rod ant depends mostly on the bulk properties of a fairly large chunk of ferrite, it would take an awful lot of blowing down a straw to have an effect ;-) But a change in ambient temp would give a slow change in output as the ferrite warmed or cooled. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU