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Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:44:22 +0200
From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Hello Gary, LF,

I just had a first transmission.
I will try short transmissions every 10-15 minutes or so until my =20
signal shows up un your grabber. Then I will start longer transmissions.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

> OK Rik,
>
> I will look at the settings you describe in MTTY to allow me to monitor, I
> normally use TrueTTY.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gary - G4WGT.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
> Sent: 05 May 2009 16:26
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: RE: LF: RE: rtty test
>
> Gary, LF,
>
> I just had a look at MMTTY and it seems pretty easy to set it to 50Hz
> shift and 22Bd baudrate.
> The way I did it:
> 1. As a start select 23Hz RTTY (in "Profiles")
> 2. In "Options" select "Setup MMTTY"
> 3. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Shift" from 23 tot 50 (it is not
> a standard option, but you can just type 50 into the field)
> 4. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Mark" to a suitable value (that
> is the audio frequency you get)
> 5. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Discriminator Type" from VCO to FIR BP=
F
> 6. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Tap" from 72 to 256
> 7. In the tab "Demodulator" click on "OK"
> 8. In the tab "Decode" change "BaudRate" from 45 tot 22 and click "OK"
> Steps 5-7 set demodulator type, the values above are the result of
> some brief dry tests and can most likely still be optimized. You can
> do that in the main screen.
>
> If WX permits (no rain) I intend to run some tests between 20:30 and
> 21:30 UTC on 503.5kHz in mode USB (so if you listen in LSB don't
> forget to select reverse mode).
> I will announce the exact hours later this evening.
> Between transmissions I will listen on the same frequency.
>
> All reports (or replies) are welcome.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 14:14 5/05/2009, you wrote:
>> Hello Gary,
>>
>> I had a closer look at the 23Hz shift option of MMTTY and it seems
>> to run at 45Bd what is on the edge regarding the shift/baudrate
>> ratio. That is most likely the reason why it is not so robust.
>> Using 45Bd at 85Hz shift would exceed the 100Hz bandwidth limit.
>> I guess the best option for RTTY would be a shift around 50Hz and a
>> lower baudrate (say 20Bd) what would well fit within the 100Hz
>> bandwidth and would have a sufficient shift/baudrate ratio to
>> provide a robust signal.
>> I will see if I can get such signal out of MMTTY and - if time
>> permits - run some tests tonight.
>>
>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>
>> At 12:22 5/05/2009, you wrote:
>>> Hi Rik,
>>>
>>> You have experienced the same as I did with 23Hz shift, the signal needs
> to
>>> be very strong to decode. It was in the last 2 minutes that I got the
>>> partial decode.
>>>
>>> A much better shift to use is the 85Hz which will fit into your spec.
>>>
>>> I have had good QSO's with Chris G3XIZ in Biggleswade both of us using
> 85Hz.
>>>
>>> Give that a try next time & I believe I will get a much better decode
>>> judging by the strength of your signal.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Gary - G4WGT.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
>>> Sent: 04 May 2009 22:37
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: rtty test
>>>
>>> Hello Gary,
>>>
>>> call the is almost right, locator completely.
>>> But not really impressive for 500mW ERP.
>>> I could see my signal on your grabber, some slow QSB but strong for
>>> the last 2 minutes or so.
>>> I used MTTY with the profile "23Hz RTTY (MTTY)" without any further
>>> changes, not sure that this is the best mode.
>>> So any advice is welcome.
>>> I have also installed MultiPSK, but am still overwhelmed by the colors
>>> and options.
>>> I am allowed to use any digital mode as long as I stick to max. 100Hz
>>> bandwidth.
>>>
>>> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:
>>>
>>> > Hi Rik,
>>> >
>>> > This is the best I could do, it looks like almost your call sign &
> locator
>>> > :-
>>> >
>>> > RHTQHTST DE TC(TIOJ7T OR1T JO20IX
>>> >
>>> > 73
>>> >
>>> > Gary - G4WGT.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
>>> > Sent: 04 May 2009 21:10
>>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> > Subject: LF: rtty test
>>> >
>>> > dear all,
>>> >
>>> > I will run a short (10 minute) rtty test (23Hz shift) on 503.500 at
> 21UTC
>>> > Reports and/or reply welcome.
>>> >
>>> > 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>
>
>
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