Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (rly-mb04.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.162]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-d044a132e0110c; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:09:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB048-d044a132e0110c; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:09:08 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M6XUL-0006mV-JU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:08:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M6XUL-0006mM-5p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:08:45 +0100 Received: from smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.234]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M6XUH-0005W4-1W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:08:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 26608 invoked from network); 19 May 2009 22:08:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4REHpDVc3PcGM2eyai/sCVKx3FCYgsMmxLxF+bLllO3BsWxtindOOOvqBttrkNVSalFy2JKzCSJ690lbJPrjxRq4LV91oyFh0JAFr3iygIqeuBZqp0Lo/ffa7c6yFZUZQWbYGHrWdCDWex+R+2PMyJEcUOjN9gpF0/X3hLFgDSw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.15.34 with login) by smtp824.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2009 22:08:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3KgHvK4VM1nPIwweC8.ddlNptXdh22eVSmifIzK6r_F1vcfr87I1zinbPi_1MMuSYnrGs.tynlFwmPEVMBsRyYQDNqxfrHxeEL.pK9o.42Zpy9l2NOXc_F6MiSImElmTXD7dh6TRxJn2IShv8n.eQCKIIB4Dm5bciqZ3RjDkRamAkeuAwQCkAGjJR.Epw.Hn36bOIzmPyMJ312peJJfaPW1nfcnUTgoR_GtJJHrHYIQ64ROAr8xHkUAm7HS5EPrhavmdh75eKozCHxpyLcxBHmDAxEBx7m6qBxOOW_p_T2aOTOEcf_sgqMhdDw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <015f01c9d8ce$5f683fe0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <003001c9d8c4$719e7710$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:08:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 518khz - Notch Filter. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary see the "notch" I designed for Hugh to reduce DCF39 a little at http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/BR-t-Notch.htm The plot will give some idea of the possible reduction in wanted signal. The trick is you want the highest "Q" you can get this involved usually using a small inductor and a large cap. The other problem is that they dont like a low impedance load on the output so you need to put an emitter (or source) follower before the RX input. I can only suggest try it and see. I think it should work reasonably well, DCF39 is a lot closer to 136 than 518 is to 502 relatively speaking. A top-coupled band-pass filter would also work quite well but I am not sure whether you would get enough rejection on the high side. The LC is resonant at the notch frequency and the pot is connected to the centre-tap. The plot is from the (free) analyser program on my site too. There may even be a node-list for it in the download examples. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: LF: 518khz - Notch Filter. > Hi LF, > > > > You may have seen an image of a NAVTEX signal on my 500KHz grabber at about > 506KHz. The original of this image is at 518KHz. The receiver for this > grabber is a Softrock Lite 455KHz module modified for 500KHz. > > > > I have attempted to notch the signal using a simple series or parallel > filter but only succeeded in seriously degrading the whole band possibly due > to the bandwidth of the filter?? > > > > Is there some simple narrow notch filter which I could use to remove the > offending signal. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > >