Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (rly-dc05.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.34]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC051-b244a11a8be31b; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:28:40 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC058-b244a11a8be31b; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:28:16 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M67YQ-00014k-5T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:27:14 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M67YP-00014b-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:27:13 +0100 Received: from ttsmtp-4.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.245] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M67YK-00055e-1h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:27:13 +0100 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsFAJ9EEUpOltil/2dsb2JhbACEUokFwyCEAQU Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.216.165]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 18 May 2009 19:27:02 +0100 Message-ID: <004c01c9d7e6$3d175900$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <57a24ca70905170742m1675e435n9e2e09dcf618d291@mail.gmail.com> <20090517222630.ae0y0n55sb7ookoo@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:27:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: JA ops Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 This is a meaningless argument about 25 watts and range on LF. One needs to know about the actual antenna in use and the resulting ERP. Early UK experimenters in the South only managed a few hundred metres on 136 and could not be heard North of Watford and most are still struggling in that area. This info appeared in the LF comic at the time. Some how the big signals eminated from the Midlands and North as far as Scotland and still do. There were also some big signals from EU at the time, unfortunately now all gone QRT, all active on CW. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: JA ops Hi Warren, depends on what you call a neighbour. In the early days of 136kHz I worked stations up to 400km under similar conditions. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Warren Ziegler : > Tnx Laurence, > > If he's running 25W into a 25m (horizontal?) wire on 136kHz he will > have to get some of his neighbors on. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > On 5/17/09, Laurence BY3A-KL1X China > wrote: >> >> Ive asked Hiroshi for more details and passed reflector and info sites - >> fyi >> 73 Laurence KL1X in windy BY3A >> >> >> From: ja3vqw Hiroshi >> Hi Laurence >> >> Thanks for your e-mail. >> Yes, I got license form the department of Telecom in JA ( Sohmu-sho) last >> month. >> I make CQ many times everyday around 1200 UTC but I have not got QSO >> with >> any station. >> I guess there a very few licensees in JA ob 136KHz. >> So if you find my signal please QSL me. >> My TX is modified IC-731 output 25W. >> The antenna is long(short?) wire 25ms long. >> 73 >> >> >> >> >> >> Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. >> Check >> it out. >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. >> http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.33/2120 - Release Date: 05/18/09 06:28:00