Return-Path: Received: from rly-de04.mx.aol.com (rly-de04.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.140]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDE034-4cc49e33945b1; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:08:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE043-4cc49e33945b1; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:08:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LtLsy-0005va-Ua for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:07:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LtLsy-0005vR-EX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:07:40 +0100 Received: from smtp10.online.nl ([194.134.42.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LtLst-0006Me-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:07:40 +0100 Received: from smtp10.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C496402B5 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:07:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pa3fnytrqxpddu (s5593e077.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.147.224.119]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:07:32 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:07:31 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-reply-to: <004301c9bc36$71696c00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp10.online.nl) X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: RE: LF: 136 kHz - Nostalgia Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 GRUMPY OLD MAN Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens mal hamilton Verzonden: maandag 13 april 2009 14:51 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 136 kHz - Nostalgia The migration has never been evident. Where has the 31 countries gone that were active on 137 khz some years ago, certainly not on 500 khz. The utility stations, although not desireable are not a problem with good RX selectivity and an antenna suitable for the job. If the Japanese make some rice boxes for these bands and the appliance operators get their hands on them then LF/MF will be congested with RASPING NOISE MODES. At present these boxes are home built and too difficult for most to construct. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dennison" To: "Chris Osborn" ; Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Re: LF: 136 kHz - Nostalgia > There are two main reasons for the decline in activity on 136kHz. > > Firstly, most of those interested in experimenting at low frequencies > have migrated to 500kHz. This is exactly what happened to 73kHz when > the 136kHz band was opened up. > > Secondly, the increased sideband noise from utility stations either > side of the band (see DF6MN's grabber to see what I mean) > has dramatically reduced activity from central Europe, particularly > Germany, which was responsible for encouraging other Europeans onto > the band. > > There is still activity on 136kHz from far off parts, such as the USA > and Russia and it is to be hoped that some of those who have gained > experience on 500kHz will eventually rise to the challenge of DX on > 136kHz. > > In the meantime, I am active most weekends on CW and QRSS, and am > available for skeds most days. > > Mike., G3XDV > ========== > >> I called my head off today on 137 kHz, both on CW and DFCW. >> Apart from a QSO with good old Jeff, F6BWO there was nothing heard. >> >> Looking back in my LF log book for around Easter 2006 there were the >> following stations active:- >> >> DF6NM, DK4U, DK7SU, DL2HRE, EW6GB, F6BWO, F6CWA, G3AQC, G3KEV, G3WCB, >> G3XDV, G3YKB, GM3YXM, IK5ZPV, M0BMU, M0FMT, OH1TN, PA3CPM, PA3FNY, >> OK2BVG, RU6LA, S57A . . . >> >> Happy days ! >> >> I'm beaconing on 136.915 kHz at present should anyone wish to dust off >> and check their LF receivers. >> >> 73 Chris G3XIZ >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.54/2056 - Release Date: 04/13/09 05:51:00