Return-Path: Received: from rly-md08.mx.aol.com (rly-md08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.146]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINMD012-91e49b551fa174; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:29:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md08.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD086-91e49b551fa174; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:29:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgjHM-0000Hd-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:28:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgjHL-0000HU-Vx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:28:39 +0000 Received: from web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.121]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgjHL-0001cw-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:28:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 54151 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2009 17:28:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236619713; bh=9EAaLao/FX6KM3Qa6ozoCVphhmpCCFX6NUuunJb97NY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=obH02PagRceYpimes4hdyhBEhMx7ZbV1fH/uLo+avhP9oPaQU1anga5I6Mz0fGruLf9FZ6076XZKvcDNWXmhVhg2Rlxa/2uhwe51+Ane7bZXE/nT676i1lj/JTfBz/DKJ/Mb3mDdhvJshU4IDPqrJVF1PG6D0p2c4p4Nag6ALbc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oTpJ0KmQfStP5j3moVsvY6HhI7ITBUswIQGmbeYCAvntDrG/bYavxxZrSoAzBXJns9tytBHe+iw24a0QRAMn6KqmRh2zvQNj4ny0fOTMRQVBcCrQlknJzbBnAMket2WN/CAcLyCkDvXMaOt6UCaFR6Urrlb/CeKWbbMg7XvYo7w=; Message-ID: <896162.53856.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: alrK2AQVM1lTGgJLrMUCwBfzp2V8k454TDg9IbFz3sD7dUxwH_g5PsrhW4uu2bDcH6CVs77Ns.1spM7qOJON5QsgRJIAtyQ_1JmiOLmB5MDg7iWn9b9J25Y0qHA9lw_y6pvrFbWHpJDOVTXRtr5MhfSkYT1B0cZKbX8iOBEfOHTHDXL0pHaFZ20STdEGtKSZo1pLoCth9yu9ZDmohw-- Received: from [81.152.103.37] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:28:33 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:28:33 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Fw: Re: LF: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d297.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All GQRP/LF =A0 What's an Energy Saving Lamp to you?=20 =A0 I'll tell you what .....Parts!!!!!! =A0 9W Philips so called energy saving SFL =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Item Component type Electrical value Units Spec 1 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W 2 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W 3 Resistor 1 Ohm 0.125W 4 Resistor 700000 Ohm 0.125W 5 Resistor 387000 Ohm 0.125W 6 Resistor 48 Ohm 0.25W 7 Capacitor 100 nF Poly ? 8 Capacitor 23 nF Poly ? 9 Capacitor 2.3 nF Poly ? 10 Capacitor 1.6 nF Poly ? 11 Capacitor 2.2 Elec Micro F 350Vw 12 Inductor 2.795 mH Laminate=A0 Core 13 Inductor 2.28 mH Ferite Cylinder 14 Inductor 131 (for 9T) micro H Toroid R10 N30 15 Transistor DK51 =A0 Unijuction Device 16 Transistor DK51 =A0 Unijuction Device 17 Diode 1N4007 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 18 Diode 1N4008 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 19 Diode 1N4009 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 20 Diode 1N4010 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 21 Diode 1N4011 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 22 Diode 1N4012 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 23 Diode 1N4013 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rectifier 24 Diode !N4141 Fast switch small signal det =A0 I cut one of these things up today and stripped it and measured all the valu= es. You don't have to break the tube in doing this so its safe. =A0 It only takes about 10 minutes tops to remove and strip everything. Conserva= tively I reckon there is about =A35 of value to the average contructor in th= ere. Not bad for ten minutes work? =A0 Even the cleaned up CCT could be used like Vero at a push. =A0 Well thats my contribution to overcome these straitened times. =A0 73 Petefmt =A0 Plus the Tube still works and is a very good RF indicator on my 600m antenna= !! --- On Sun, 8/3/09, Peter Cleall wrote: From: Peter Cleall Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 2:53 PM For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impres= sion that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to m= ove to using these bulbs. =A0 =A0Are my concerns=A0still the case or are they old fashioned and out of dat= e. Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.=20 Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in s= ignals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided Any thoughts would be appreciaated regards peter =A0 =20 --0-1872341988-1236619713=:53856 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



Hi All GQRP/LF
 
What's an Energy Saving Lamp to you?
 
I'll tell you what .....Parts!!!!!!
 
9W Philips so called energy saving SFL
         
<= STRONG>Item <= U>Component
type		 <= U>Electrical
value		 U= nits Sp= ec
1 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W=
2 Resistor 5 Ohm 0.125W=
3 Resistor 1 Ohm 0.125W=
4 Resistor 700000 Ohm 0.125W=
5 Resistor 387000 Ohm 0.125W=
6 Resistor 48 Ohm 0.25W<= /TD>
7 Capacitor 100 nF Poly ?=
8 Capacitor 23 nF Poly ?=
9 Capacitor 2.3 nF Poly ?=
10 Capacitor 1.6 nF Poly ?=
11 Capacitor 2.2 Elec Micro F 350Vw<= /TD>
12 Inductor 2.795= mH Laminate  Core
13 Inductor 2.28<= /TD> mH Ferite Cylind= er
14 Inductor 131 (for 9T)= micro H Toroid R10 N3= 0
15 Transistor DK51<= /TD>   Unijuction De= vice
16 Transistor DK51<= /TD>   Unijuction De= vice
17 Diode= 1N4007 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
18 Diode= 1N4008 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
19 Diode= 1N4009 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
20 Diode= 1N4010 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
21 Diode= 1N4011 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
22 Diode= 1N4012 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
23 Diode= 1N4013 1000V - 1A Gen Purp Rect= ifier
24 Diode= !N4141<= /TD> Fast switch small signal det=
 
I cut one of these things up today and stripped it and measured all the= values. You don't have to break the tube in doing this so its safe.
 
It only takes about 10 minutes tops to remove and strip everything. Con= servatively I reckon there is about =A35 of value to the average contructor=20= in there. Not bad for ten minutes work?
 
Even the cleaned up CCT could be used like Vero at a push.
 
Well thats my contribution to overcome these straitened times.
 
73 Petefmt
 
Plus the Tube still works and is a very good RF indicator on my 600m an= tenna!!


--- On Sun, 8/3/09, Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net> wrote:=

From: Peter Cleall <peter.cleall@virgin.net><= BR>Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
D= ate: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 2:53 PM

For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the i= mpression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure= to move to using these bulbs.
 
 Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and= out of date.
Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home.
Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested= in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz.
Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided
Any thoughts would be appreciaated
regards
peter

 

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