Return-Path: Received: from rly-me02.mx.aol.com (rly-me02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.35]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-99e49ccf08e135; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:28:32 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME022-99e49ccf08e135; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:28:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDy1-00041d-IW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LnDy1-00041U-5b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LnDy0-0008LR-5R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB007B805E for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96331E705 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094231E704 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 939AA5BD2; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from 48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (48.35-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.241.35.48]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20090327162720.6et0xg2farr40g0c@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:27:20 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8bf118410903270647t5ebb0cedi82b96e2ea73075bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.241.35.48 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Lazy Man's CW made it to Venus and back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dave, If I got it right their ran 5kW into a 20m dish at 2.4GHz. The dish gain should be about 50dBd. 50dB =3D 100000 times power gain, thus ERP =3D +/- 500MW The distance to Venus (today) is 0.281 AU =3D 42 milion km =3D 26.1 milion m= iles Total distance is 82 milion km / 52.2 milion miles, what makes it +/- =20 0.1 miles per Watt. That value is not spectacular at all, but take into account that Venus =20 is a pretty bad reflector and the signal hasto go twice trough the =20 atmoshpere and ionospere. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting Dave Pick : > How many miles per Watt is that?!! > > Dave 'YXM > > 2009/3/26 > >> Greetings everyone, >> >> Not really LF, but QRSS... >> >> A group of radio amateurs from AMSAT-DL has successfully transmitted a >> (very short) message in QRSS, consisting of the two letters "HI" (im >> memoriam of old OSCARS) to Venus on 2.4 GHz, and received the reflection. >> Each TX/RX over lasted for about 5 minutes (the travelling time). The >> transmitter was a 5 kW magnetron disciplined to a narrow-band transmitter= . >> Details on the AMSAT-DL website. The German HR TV will send a documentati= on >> tonight at 19:30 (local). The EVE (Earth-Venus-Earth) details follow >> tomorrow on Hessischer Rundfunk. >> >> 73, >> Wolf DL4YHF >> (from the IUZ in Bochum) >> >> >> >> >> >> #adBox3 {display:none;} >> >> >> > > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm