Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-99549b3e7a82; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:43:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME011-99549b3e7a82; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:43:38 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LgL9n-0006nU-AX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LgL9m-0006nL-Jm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LgL9l-0007Xf-RI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 24459 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 15:43:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=pvK/CeGN2qLnhuaeCw9DYl3A/7rzfEc+3mUdf8ByoGzu3/sO6S03hn6BW1YK9M/3HHV6lFOaq1/QsNgf2vvZ8jLzQsR3V2eJSSgBGbmCOUEyfZo79X8M8JoghSbT2l37M13OfiQtMgLJlRLSfWzmrHIdO3332erzY44ejtSGQIw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.15.93 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2009 15:43:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1JLNUZcVM1njFSMNTeJrZN.8E1ygeXIynLaJV80zAqxIE0Vx33Hhc_lZxoc4yXXlG.8EHfk93Om9_S7HlnpBRJp84DGkr2WoXAvCDF1mAQYQ7MolOm_8QeN5.no_0ILeoztKJ2l6wJ3kcfGv6D9bnytUe0b65XLTYWqKHmVhJgvA6RlT..vZZiYiELpInZtRWMzyaVi5D2zwvgZwODkXv8RfKcnG7A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007f01c9a004$97057380$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <1794381892.23372.1236524009509.JavaMail.mail@webmail03> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: energy saving bulbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Peter some do and some dont. I have found the Osram bad and the Philips best so far. There are a number of other things to think about too. One, in normal replacement for tungten Fil they do NOT last 10,000 hours. The reason seems to be that in a normal vertical hanging fitting the connector end of the assembly get very hot....... this bit of course contains the electronics which get unreliable with increasing temperature. Bulb life test on fil bulbs is traditionally done the "other way up" for ease of loading....so maybe this was not spotted. They take several 10s of seconds to reach usable brightness....longer than tuble starters. No good for short spells of activity as they are only becomming usable when they are switched off. They do contain mercury, albeit a small amount. They should not be used in reading lamps which come close to the face as there is a signigicant UV content. I have just been using one in a bedside lamp and after a couple of days relised I could smell a similar smell to that close to a Xerox machine.....yes the lamp was pproducing sufficient ozone to significantly irritate the nostrils. I have a large stock of filament lamps!! but I use tube fluorescents for main lighting which are even more efficient in terms of light for energy (no a lot of "greenies" or lamp manufacturers admit that, and my tube fluorescents are radio quiet for antennas outside the house. I have relagated the CFLs to outside lighting fittings, which I occasionally forget to switch off!! The tale that filament lamps are inefficient is a myth !! All the energy fed to the bulb is converted into radiation ! some is light and some is heat.....a CLF just produces less heat and more light and more polution! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Cleall" To: Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: LF: energy saving bulbs > For many years I have avoided using the energy saving bulbs under the impression that they were major RF pollutents. I am under increasing pressure to move to using these bulbs. > > > > Are my concerns still the case or are they old fashioned and out of date. > > Do you have experience of using these bulbs in the home. > > Do modern versions interfer with your Radio receiving , I am interested in signals from 15 kHz to 500 MHz. > > Are there specific types or manufactures to be avoided > > Any thoughts would be appreciaated > > regards > > peter > > > > >