Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE071-4c0497dfeae16f; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:19:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE031-4c0497dfeae16f; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:19:28 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LRW38-00034c-Ko for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:19:06 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LRW38-00034T-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:19:06 +0000 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRW33-0008L0-W8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:19:05 +0000 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e30so2878792fke.4 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:19:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PWIK5bH0Tk9RnoPfNRyYkwBQDkNzBn5oCnKoLmE5HyU=; b=xY+kxqjsg/p05WW53M3HXGFwzTVdBDdE4Lxl9obaeg9Wl8pZgyrw9lUu0QqEuRt22d eJEggrjAr/b9queRNvg2kEOuP5P6M089dwp7MKdoWjHmgSWqpXLfxqsEN6yw05slExo0 dFZb7DxQu6L6ukBJEy7WCXJG09mp6xtdWhIDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ahjk7+NIC7F0YW0imzTYw63rXIPTNMtUZaVN2Ow7boOb40Bnp/O2iBzVG8xEwBpPaN wHNhku3FWf/ru1FrrCaDFv+HUJMHF2yJCojnvU+kWPWpl9K1yPjLwrtf/TYP6WFwCWjg evTf7iUjhqlATlg7YZSsRrJKGiqayqQy2nJC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.235.7 with SMTP id i7mr2025228bkh.24.1232993940765; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:19:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <976D046F0BF44B39A9CC91C7306E969B@AGB> References: <001c01c97fae$473a2600$0900a8c0@AM> <200901261610460578.3B70C5B6@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <006201c97fcd$5e425b00$0900a8c0@AM> <878CA1EB1E7349DC9464A021BE1B86B0@p4> <976D046F0BF44B39A9CC91C7306E969B@AGB> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:19:00 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 502.400 Dial frequency ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m222.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Some spectrum plots of the WSPR signal can be seen at http://www.g4jnt.com/wspr-spectra/ These were generated at 1500Hz using WSPR.EXE, directly converted to RF and fed via an attenuator to an SDR-IQ for measuring and displaying the spectrum. If we use the widely accepted -40dBc criteria for adjacent channel spurii, then it is clear the transmission can be centred at up to 10Hz below the upper band edge. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/1/26 Graham : > > Are we to adopt 502.400 Hz USB dial frequency for WSPR ? > With 1500 Hz audio centre band tone. > > RF mid band carrier frequency of 503.900 Hz ? > > With 6 hz modulation and phase continues tone side bands and > guard band are not a issue, the band edge is protected? > > 504KHz and its sidebands are actually x2 of the fundamental > so should not present a problem as the 200 Hz slot is in a > close in, dead zone, there amplitude increasing lower into the band, > one of the reasons qrss and range testing takes place in this > 'noisy' zone. > > I will add a note to the uk500khz group and links in others with details > if > acceptable to widen the reporting base. > > Tnx- > > Graham > > G0NBD > > > > > > > > > > > > > >