Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC071-b10495f815c257; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:16:49 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC034-b10495f815c257; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:16:46 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LJ8En-0004LU-FV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:16:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LJ8Em-0004LL-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:16:28 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f19.google.com ([209.85.218.19]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJ8El-000690-Pe for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:16:28 +0000 Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so21912141bwz.4 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:16:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vC6awOB1uicHXzx9ILlSCksOEO+uUIT1Xai8qaexKPI=; b=iszI7B6X/S8MbtDEMMf5dahscZ3zYcVCSqhq5k+NItWPJcGDRm50iXYR1pIdRNLhjH hjYi2eYI32CwmFojQhMImBwU6zaLexbHe6STwdqNyXsWdJFTWQIEJcypWVoD8J/prPF5 kABJMHCAzD1NO5zPlYD04KeLsACy3Vhu3BE/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rslFX3c/mkUJJBEsW6ajOCP709iL7qRaaTFRrq+N7Or+HyQvPj00eema8k3o16HioF sXwJYIbxEvOrxG23JCKFumFLqzJUZVUl0RLzOhLrIOUj3J/JjyWu4lBz5EM/lUS+m2h4 ahz/INH7ApR6paZUH0Dy0emYb7Xd3xK4wsw6c= Received: by 10.181.52.14 with SMTP id e14mr7310179bkk.47.1230995781065; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.228.10 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 07:16:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:16:21 +0000 From: "Andy Talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <800E0F535F2B4112AC2B0C59C202EB89@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <285F98C95F064AA8B5B6C559814191EC@ns94d01ae4d850> <495E22D1.5030805@mail.ru> <495E33DC.3060502@mail.ru> <495E5832.9000009@mail.ru> <23CE077F929444939EDA62569064E6E9@AGB> <00f001c96d13$ed597980$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <39FCEC3B8E014BF59CD4E7140D94B0BB@AGB> <800E0F535F2B4112AC2B0C59C202EB89@AGB> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Low power olivia beacon 503 khz cent freq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m215.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Yes it is. All freqs derived from the master OSC input with dedicated PLLs. BFO can be tuned in 10Hz steps +/- 8000Hz. Some RA1792 radios have 1Hz RF tuning steps (not mine), but don't know if the BFO does likewise on those models. Can't lock the SDR-IQ yet as it needs a 66.66666MHz clock and haven't yet got round to making a locked clock source for it. Easiest solution may be an Si570 device - need to investigate. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/1/3 Graham : > Andy, > > Is the bfo on the ra1792 synthesised ? it is on my ra6790gm , but the > trusty ra1778 (I have to say that or it develop some obscure fault) has a > free tune 1.4 mhz bfo .so no good for hyper stable data ! .. but phase > locked 1.4 mhz cio .....or if you have a pilot tone you can lock onto that > ... follows 80 mtr am nicely and resolves as ssb .. cheating i know ! > > I tend to announce, > dial frequency, > mode -usb > software marker frequency .. > > multipsk has a centre frequency mark which is handy ..! > > Hope the run was of intrest , > > Graham .. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Andy Talbot" > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:37 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Low power olivia beacon 503 khz cent freq > >> >> If you have a radio with adjustable CW mode like most SDRs, and the >> RA1792, its easier to use CW mode. Tune to the centre frequency of >> interest, set the filter appropriately and the BFO to the decoders >> preferred tone. >> >> For last nights listening, my SDR-IQ was set to CW mode, audio lower >> freq 400Hz, upper freq 1600Hz, BFO 1000Hz >> >> (You can set arbitrary upper/lower linits on the SSB filter as well on >> Spectravue), but guess who initially fell foul of seeing 503kHz >> specified and assumed it meant the same as the JT65A freq the other >> night. So, on seeing the tones not where they 'should' have been and >> re-reading the email post... >> >> Must get round to writing a WSPR PIC routine for the AD9852 DDS >> similar to my existing JT65 beacons. >> >> >> Andy G4JNT >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> >> >> 2009/1/3 Graham : >>> >>> Tx bandwidth and out of band signals , >>> >>> Well after picking up the toys from around the cot and tidying up the >>> baby >>> finally fell asleep ,silence finally ensued, a little familiarisation >>> with >>> the way the radio works may help, just because the rx dial displays a >>> frequency out side the allocated band, doesn't actually mean the signal >>> is >>> out side the band .. its all to do with filter shape factor and the >>> placement of the filter .... bit like dougle asking farther ted, are all >>> the >>> cows in the field the same size as his little plastic toy one... no >>> dougle, >>> this ones in your hand and those are far away , right ted came the quick >>> reply .from a still confused dougle . >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mal hamilton" >>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:54 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: LF: Re: Low power olivia beacon 503 khz cent freq >>> >>>> >>>> OM >>>> Your transmission is outside the band limit, spreading to 504.6 khz. >>>> I can see why OFCOM are concerned about stricter control concerning data >>>> mode bandwidth. >>>> g3kev >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:30 PM >>>> Subject: LF: Low power olivia beacon 503 khz cent freq >>>> >>>> >>>>> Olivia 1 khz x 32 tone >>>>> >>>>> centre frequency 503 khz >>>>> >>>>> tx mode usb >>>>> >>>>> power 30 watts tune signal >>>>> >>>>> Will send for next few hours >>>>> >>>>> Reports welcome >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1871 - Release Date: >>>> 1/1/2009 >>>> 5:01 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1871 - Release Date: >>>> 1/1/2009 >>>> 17:01 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 >> 13:10 >> > > >