Return-Path: Received: from rly-db06.mx.aol.com (rly-db06.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.81]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB052-ad2497ccbbb172; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:30:07 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB068-ad2497ccbbb172; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:29:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LRBbi-0005TF-66 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:29:26 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LRBbh-0005T6-I9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:29:25 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.152]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRBbg-0008GC-31 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:29:25 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AB1011C00084 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:29:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.23.220]) by mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 604B71C00083 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:29:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20090125202918394.604B71C00083@mwinf3426.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <20090125092908.0aec06a4@lurcher><7EC707A6E2D94414AEBBC52C6159581C@JimPC><002001c97f0a$cf16fac0$ae01a8c0@youry0mkaz8jaq><20090125165335.47fc3399@lurcher><7690F13DCE5D44BA8A5AA126607E7979@JimPC> <20090125180430.1d63e1c7@lurcher> <6449616DC58940A19C537A59F53828DA@AGB> <00d201c97f20$bd909520$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <00d201c97f20$bd909520$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:29:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Gary, I don't think a guard band is really needed as if you set the centre carrier frequency to 503.9 , then operating at the extreme edges is not really possible, you're right on the edge of the waterfall. the deviation is only round 6 hz Re power .. I would say, the erp is the most meaningful, actual power supplied to the antenna without the performance data of the array doesn't really mean too much ? G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary - G4WGT" Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:11 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > > Hi All, > > In agreement with John & Graham, I believe that makes sense. The top part > of > the band is probably the least used area so we just need to agree on a > 200Hz > slot of either 503.800 to 504.000KHz with no guard band or 503.700 to > 503.900KHz with a 100Hz guard band. > > My WSPR beacon is now active using dial frequency 502.000KHz & 503.550KHz > data. > > Looks like Andy just beat me to the announcement. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 25 January 2009 18:32 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > > John, > > Looks close to my post , just, as wspr is such a narrow mode, could move > to > > the band edge without problems > clear of the occasional qrss slightly lower down > > With a move to vfo/exciter control, defining the wspr slot is a > reasonable > concept as it will allow other 'casual' > monitor stations to be established .. and negate the number of post > needed > to announce a test ! > > What of the beacons that used this area of the band , are they qrt or just > sleeping ? > > G .. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John P-G" > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:04 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > >> >> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:40:27 +0000 >> Andy Talbot wrote: >> >>> Is there some sort of unofficial bandplan on this band? >> >> Oh no! >> >> Please let's not get into this again.... >> >> At the moment there is no bandplan, but general concensus would >> indicate "beacons at the band edges - real QSOs in the middle". >> >> The current WSPR activity around 503.5 (502.0 dial) seems reasonable, >> although moving up a few hundred Hz wouldn't hurt, say to 502.3 dial >> which gives a 200Hz window at 503.7 - 503.9 >> >> There are often CW mode beacons near the bottom of the band - GI4DPE, >> GW3UEP and others, and it's convenient to have them there - it allows >> monitoring them and SK6RUD concurrently. >> >> >> That's just my view on how things have evolved. >> >> "Real Man's CW" seems to live around 502.63 >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: >> 1/24/2009 20:40 >> > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: > 1/24/2009 20:40 >