Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (rly-dg03.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.87]) by air-dg03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDG031-5b4495e972c2a4; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:37:55 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG035-5b4495e972c2a4; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:37:34 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LIsdu-0005Dc-NS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LIsdu-0005DT-2j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s12.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.23]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LIsds-00038m-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:37:22 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W28 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s12.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:37:13 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.236.188] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:37:13 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <285F98C95F064AA8B5B6C559814191EC@ns94d01ae4d850> <495BC771.8080702@online.fr> <495D0D23.8050705@online.fr> <775310DAF69C464DB828117B1D6D2E15@Black> <495D5840.4040503@online.fr> <495DC9D3.8030901@online.fr> <495E22D1.5030805@mail.ru> <495E33DC.3060502@mail.ru> <495E5832.9000009@mail.ru> <1286375325.20090102231132@dx.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 22:37:13.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7EB4EC0:01C96D2A] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a6722bca-6408-494d-9dc2-e6ccf1b05beb_" Subject: RE: LF: Re: China grabber 137.777 for tonight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_a6722bca-6408-494d-9dc2-e6ccf1b05beb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Marcus - Yes your right on the offset - Ill do the adjustment after c= lose down - =20 Im using a new (very) PC and attempted to cal using my normal methodology of= using JJY setting it to 59Khz and checking for a 1000Hz tone, but this doe= snt work on this machine. I have a global list of loran lines and indicated=20= global clear areas that could be used on the spreadsheet http://www.kl1x.com= /wwloran.gif which Ive been playing with so Ill use that to cal tonight. 839= 0 is the strongest and Ill concentrate on that. My second excuse (!) is Im u= sing the SDR IQ and its long term freq stab isnt all that hot, especially on= HF using WWVH I can get up to 10Hz variation dependant on if I leave the un= it on the window sill in view of the sun - now after the "divide by" it isnt= that bad down at LF. =20 Really pleased to receive anything here given the semi industrial and "enter= tainment" area in the City - the saving grace is the Golf Course one side an= d that the antennae is us in the clear now. Another nice thing - if you see=20= it my way, is all the satellite antennaes, LNB's cabling have been cut down=20= by the local ministry, citing that they are illegal so I dont get any SMPSU=20= hash or leakage there. =20 Cheers. =20 Laurence (waking up) BY3A-KL1X Bohai Bay China> From: markusvester@aol.com>=20= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:12:35 +0100> Subj= ect: LF: Re: China grabber 137.777 for tonight> > Hi Laurence, LF,> > I have= tried to identify the LORAN lines in your display:> > GRI freq/Hz your dial= > 8390 137 777.116 777.38 (strongest)> 8930 137 777.156 777.41> 7430 137 779= .273 779.54> 9930 137 779.456 779.72 (weak)> 7950 137 773.585 773.86 (very w= eak) (btw I never found this chain on 100 kHz)> > This would mean that your=20= frequency scale is currently reading 0.26 Hz high. For comparison, the RN3AG= C and F1AFJ grabber readouts > are fairly accurate. Thus "WPF" and "Y" do ap= pear in China on their expected frequencies, whereas DF6NM produced only a s= ingle dash > so far...> > Thanks very much for running your receiver and gra= bber! We're sweating hard ;-)> > Best wishes,> Markus, DF6NM> > ----- Origin= al Message ----- > From: "Ed RU6LA" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:11 PM> Subject: LF: Re: China grabb= er 137.777 for tonight: RA3YO DF6NM UA4WPF> > > Dear LF enthusiasts and Laur= ence!> > On http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg now (20z)> RA3YO abt 137778,5> D= F6NM abt 13777,7> UA4WPF abt 13777,4> traces only> > 73! Ed RU6LA> >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista=AE.=20 http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/=3D --_a6722bca-6408-494d-9dc2-e6ccf1b05beb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Marcus - Yes your right on the offset - Ill do the adjustment after c= lose down -
 
Im using a new (very) PC and attempted to cal using my normal methodology of= using JJY setting it to 59Khz and checking for a 1000Hz tone,  but thi= s doesnt work on this machine. I have a global list of loran lines and indic= ated global clear areas that could be used on the spreadsheet http://www.kl1x.com/wwloran.gif which= Ive been playing with so Ill use that to cal tonight. 8390 is the strongest= and Ill concentrate on that. My second excuse (!) is Im using the SDR IQ an= d its long term freq stab isnt all that hot, especially on HF using WWVH I c= an get up to 10Hz variation dependant on if I leave the unit on the window s= ill in view of the sun - now after the "divide by" it isnt that bad dow= n at LF.
 
Really pleased to receive anything here given the semi industrial and "enter= tainment" area in the City - the saving grace is the Golf Course one side an= d that the antennae is us in the clear now. Another nice thing - if you see=20= it my way, is all the satellite antennaes, LNB's cabling have been cut down=20= by the local ministry, citing that they are illegal so I dont get any SMPSU=20= hash or leakage there.
 
Cheers.
 
Laurence (waking up) BY3A-KL1X Bohai Bay China

> From: markusveste= r@aol.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan=20= 2009 23:12:35 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: China grabber 137.777 for tonig= ht
>
> Hi Laurence, LF,
>
> I have tried to identi= fy the LORAN lines in your display:
>
> GRI freq/Hz your dial> 8390 137 777.116 777.38 (strongest)
> 8930 137 777.156 777.41> 7430 137 779.273 779.54
> 9930 137 779.456 779.72 (weak)
>= ; 7950 137 773.585 773.86 (very weak) (btw I never found this chain on 100 k= Hz)
>
> This would mean that your frequency scale is currently=20= reading 0.26 Hz high. For comparison, the RN3AGC and F1AFJ grabber readouts=20=
> are fairly accurate. Thus "WPF" and "Y" do appear in China on their= expected frequencies, whereas DF6NM produced only a single dash
> so= far...
>
> Thanks very much for running your receiver and grab= ber! We're sweating hard ;-)
>
> Best wishes,
> Markus, D= F6NM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed RU6LA"= <ed@dx.ru>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> S= ent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:11 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: China grabber= 137.777 for tonight: RA3YO DF6NM UA4WPF
>
>
> Dear LF e= nthusiasts and Laurence!
>
> On http://www.kl1x.com/dx00000.jpg= now (20z)
> RA3YO abt 137778,5
> DF6NM abt 13777,7
> UA4W= PF abt 13777,4
> traces only
>
> 73! Ed RU6LA
> >


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