Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF082-54c4982fbf7244; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:09:39 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF051-54c4982fbf7244; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:09:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LSt7N-0002N4-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:09:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LSt7N-0002Mu-D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:09:09 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s13.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LSt7L-0001np-PY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:09:09 +0000 Received: from BLU146-W20 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s13.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:08:57 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [119.73.250.227] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:08:57 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004401c9814d$a118ed00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <004f01c9809a$708b5c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <15F27D85CDCF44D08A47D3D50019AD5D@DR2> <00a701c980ac$47ecc7c0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <004401c9814d$a118ed00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2009 13:08:57.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[E936C820:01C982DB] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: PROPAGATION WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sorry for the delay - back in 9V1 again - =20 Yes traffic list on 522.5kHz http://kl1x.com/xsg17thmay2007tfc.wav but no=20= ships calling or working on MF/500 since Ive been over here save one weak re= ception of KPH. ---------------------------------------- > From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:37:56 +0000 > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: PROPAGATION WSPR > > Is there any tfc list and exchange of traffic on the freq. I have hrd some > ships calling although not recently on 500 khz, mostly far east ships. > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurence BY3A-KL1X China"=20 > To:=20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:21 PM > Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: PROPAGATION WSPR > > > > Coastal stations are still running, well XSG on A1A is anyway on 522.5 > Hz - Im not sure of the power Shanghai radio puts out but from field > measurements its probably in the 1Kw range. > > Laurence - stuck in Singapore.... > > > > > > > > > From: g3kevmal@talktalk.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:22:58 +0000 > Subject: LF: Re: Re: PROPAGATION WSPR > > > > > That is a more sensible power for MF. Coastal stns were running in excess=20= of > this power and ships between 1 - 2 kw so whats new. > Radio amateurs are at a disatvantage at present but could handle it, but > appliance operators NO. > G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dave.riley3 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:31 PM > Subject: LF: Re: PROPAGATION WSPR > > > > > NEWS FLASH > The NEHRS,Inc. has been granted by the FCC the call letter WNE for MF > CW operation on 472 KHz and 500 KHz at a maximum power of 5000 watts. > Hope some of you guys get your T2 license to run the station after > construction. As soon as the snow melts and temperatures rise a bit the > large vertical will be errected. My QTH can only be temporary so we > must find a permanent home ASAP. > > 73, Steve > > WA1HUD > > President NEHRS, Inc. > http://nehrs.net/default.aspx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:15 AM > Subject: LF: PROPAGATION WSPR > > > On LF I do not think wspr is the correct mode to study propagation as > suggested by some. Two procedures are required with the mode. First it has > to be detected then analyised and decoded into a print format to be viewed= . > Morse sent in the QRS mode at a suitable speed between 1 and 120 sec dot > only requires one procedure, to be detected and viewed and would give a go= od > indication of propagation whether used for QSO purposed or otherwise. > > I have pointed out recently that I have observed all of the traces from > those transmitting WSPR and had the carrier been directly keyed in QRS mod= e > an ID or intellegence would have been conveyed, whereas only part of the > time was the signals decoded in wspr. For those viewing the print format > only and getting no copy would never know whether the signall was being > received or if it was faulty sampling and decoding. > > Cut out the second procedure of decoding, avoid ambiguity and use the slow > keyed carried method using morse code or murray code. A waterfall display > and the EYE is a very sensitive detector, > For those experimenting with data modes have fun but todate in the amateur > radio LF/MF context nothing yet has surpassed the use of slow morse keyed=20= at > a speed to suit one's needs ie propagation studies or communication betwee= n > two stations. > mal/g3kev > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1917 - Release Date: 1/26/200= 9 > 6:37 PM > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live=99: E-mail. Chat. Share. 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