Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (rly-mh06.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.142]) by air-mh04.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMH042-bdf497af6ed1d2; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:10:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH067-bdf497af6ed1d2; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:09:43 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LQgH9-0000H7-BO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:02:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LQgH2-0000Gy-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:02:01 +0000 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LQgGr-00020j-KP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:01:55 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d3c.37dce034 (37565) for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB042-5bb9497af50b279; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:01:38 -0500 Received: from FWM-M28 (fwm-m28.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.230]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA028-5bb9497af50b279; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:01:31 -0500 References: <005c01c97cbf$958ccc00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <008101c97d76$b4eb1d10$6401a8c0@asus> <007701c97d85$6b497b70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:01:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41095-STANDARD Received: from 92.1.230.132 by FWM-M28.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:01:31 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB4C2A3EB6ACAA-1588-1AEB@FWM-M28.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.332,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Morse code lifeline Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB4C2A3F8617E4_1588_37D6_FWM-M28.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB4C2A3F8617E4_1588_37D6_FWM-M28.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" What is even worse is the demoralising effect on educated jobseekers on dis= covering that their beautifully-crafted CV and application is being pre-scre= ened by an agency recruiter who cannot use the language! This is especially=20= galling if the position being applied for requires a candidate to demonstrat= e a good standard of education. Example - a well-known national agency regul= arly publishes advertisements for executive positions in which the word ther= e is used in place of their. These are not newspaper "typos"! These appear o= n the agency's own website which, on enquiry, they assured me was maintained= by "there own personle". Or, how about "Thanks for replying to are question= s. You cv is now been sent to are client."=C2=A0 Add to those the almost con= stant misuse, abuse and omission of=C2=A0 the apostrophe and one despairs fo= r the future. One of the worst I have seen came from an establishment of "hi= gher education. (I do assure you that the quotes in bold are verbatim and the misspelling is= as received.) 73 de Pat G4GVW=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:32 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Morse code lifeline Oh dear, I have to agree with Mal for once. I'm fully with you there on grammar and punctuation in modern usage. I know of one teacher who refuses and returns any written work that makes use of Text-ese. It has made her unpopular with kids and some other=20 staff. Andy G4JNT www.g4jnt.com 2009/1/23 mal hamilton : > Gary > A shining example of what can be achieved especially by a disabled person=20= . > It shows some radio amateurs up in a bad light!!!!!! on MF/LF some class A > operators dont know a DIT from a DAH and I assume they are able bodied. It > used to be that a class A amateur had an advantage over the general public > by being able to converse in morse code, just like another language except > it was totally international. > Even a worse senario, a lot of persons today cannot write, the norm is to > use a keypad and send text messages using some abbreviated gibbirish, > grammar is not required, sort of pigeon english. > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary - G4WGT > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:21 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Morse code lifeline > > Hi All, > > > > Here is a video on the above subject at this link :- > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7843705.stm > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Michael Probert > Sent: 22 January 2009 19:21 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Morse code lifeline > > > > Extract from British national newspaper dated 22nd January 2009 > > > > The Daily Telegraph A British national newspaper.----22nd January 2009 > > > > Quote=E2=80=94" A Pensioner who is almost completely paralysed has learned to > communicate with her son by knocking out Morse code with her thumb. > > Alan Jones, a former BBC technician, has devised a system to allow his 79 > year-old mother to communicate using her knowledge of the code." > > > > End of quote. > > > > 73 Mike GW4HXO > > > > ________________________________ > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1910 - Release Date: 1/22/200= 9 > 6:28 PM > =20 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! 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What is even worse is the=20= demoralising effect on educated jobseekers on discovering that their beautif= ully-crafted CV and application is being pre-screened by an agency recruiter= who cannot use the language! This is especially galling if the position bei= ng applied for requires a candidate to demonstrate a good standard of educat= ion. Example - a well-known national agency regularly publishes advertisemen= ts for executive positions in which the word there is used in=20= place of their. These are not newspaper "typos"! These appear=20= on the agency's own website which, on enquiry, they assured me was maintaine= d by "there own personle". Or, how about "Thanks for rep= lying to are questions. You cv is now been sent to are client."  Add to those the almost constant misuse, abuse and omission of  the a= postrophe and one despairs for the future. One of the worst I have seen came= from an establishment of "higher education.

(I do assure you that the quotes in bold are verbatim and the misspelling is= as received.)

73 de Pat G4GVW   


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:32
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Morse code lifeline

Oh dear, I have to agree with Mal for onc=
e.

I'm fully with you there on grammar and punctuation in modern usage.



I know of one teacher who refuses and returns any written work that

makes use of Text-ese.   It has made her unpopular with kids and some

other staff.



Andy  G4JNT

www.g4jnt.com







2009/1/23 mal hamilton <g3kevmal=
@talktalk.net>:

> Gary

> A shining example of what can be achieved especially by a disabled pers=
on .

> It shows some radio amateurs up in a bad light!!!!!! on MF/LF some clas=
s A

> operators dont know a DIT from a DAH and I assume they are able bodied.=
 It

> used to be that a class A amateur had an advantage over the general pub=
lic

> by being able to converse in morse code, just like another language exc=
ept

> it was totally international.

> Even a worse senario, a lot of persons today cannot write, the norm is=20=
to

> use a keypad and send text messages using some abbreviated gibbirish,
> grammar is not required, sort of pigeon english.

> G3KEV

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Gary - G4WGT

> To: rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org

> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:21 PM

> Subject: LF: RE: Morse code lifeline

>


> Hi All,

>

>

>

> Here is a video on the above subject at this link :-

>

>

>

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7843705.stm

>

>

>

> Cheers,

>

>

>

> Gary =E2=80=93 G4WGT.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: owner-rsgb_=
lf_group@blacksheep.org

> [mailto:owner-rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Michael Probert

> Sent: 22 January 2009 19:21

> To: rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org

> Subject: LF: Morse code lifeline

>

>

>

> Extract from British national newspaper dated 22nd January 2009

>

>

>

> The Daily Telegraph   A British national newspaper.----22nd January 200=
9

>

>

>

> Quote=E2=80=94" A Pensioner who is almost completely paralysed has lear=
ned to

> communicate with her son by knocking out Morse code with her thumb.

>

> Alan Jones, a former BBC technician, has devised a system to allow his=20=
79

> year-old mother to communicate using her knowledge of the code."

>

>

>

>  End of quote.

>

>

>

> 73  Mike GW4HXO

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> ________________________________

>

> No vi
rus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG - http:=
//www.avg.com

> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1910 - Release Date: 1/22/=
2009

> 6:28 PM

>
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