Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF052-97f496030d1dd; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:45:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF095-97f496030d1dd; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:45:23 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LJJup-0004uH-Se for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:44:39 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LJJup-0004u8-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:44:39 +0000 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJJuj-0000vJ-Cx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:44:39 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so6930349wfa.16 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KHr1MLObNdZvqWJUiEryitrONIkFbFVG8X0ctW90/ls=; b=Va28g5eN33zfWRzOfi/6LLknHBmf7hYBQ6SuEiP3XpzwjJVfqEEnhh5TCFgQ2jE9tT F9y3rwP+6NcixBoggL5+qYSQnkGj1cSO33HTnRK1FCZBMzK4HpYtVOLTmmvb7wr2L9y9 1f9YdtKGKyYeOZODKB2vpHm4vtocAL2pJxQeA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ccENHUhJ5NnS0gVSrIsb9FJJk/Rv+VO/oMfaw9Xf4mY4AmeRnpLMgEV0rK9eW3RBl3 DIkzhXJ1WDlfauB1sBWriOjUfK87EQRrP5ySY6C8eDMZeVbf+ABzZeIomHYn6H6d8/5w jsqWjgZVsEhKwOCFOMtNqM/CfNDNemIaikW0c= Received: by 10.142.177.7 with SMTP id z7mr8043489wfe.132.1231040669085; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.17 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a24ca70901031944j26fb56a9if8c2d37b6fc7f0da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:44:29 -0500 From: "Warren Ziegler" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20090103191242.123810@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8722992F1EAF4F108FA425BA049EC4E3@ns94d01ae4d850> <20090103191242.123810@gmx.net> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 184khz ?? vs. Longwave Broadcast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d242.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dennis, Europe 1 is off the air from 0000 to 01:30 UTC each night, that is when the low power 184kHz beacon from VO1NA can be copied. Iceland on 189kHz is very strong here most nights on the Northeast coast of the US. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Dennis wrote: > > Hi Henny & others! > > Happy New Year! > > I see you Henny and some others observing the band for north american lowf= er signals around 18xkHz. > That's amazing, at least to me... > > How is it possible, that those very low power signals do make it through t= he overlapping sidebands of much closer by and very very much stronger radio= stations (300kW from Hellisandur/Iceland on 189kHz and 2000kW Europe1/German= y on 183kHz? > > By the way, is there any chance to receive this Hellisandur 189kHz signal=20= in western Europe? Havn't detect it with rather simple setups and indoor ant= enna so far, but it might be an interesting propagation indicator? > > Greetings from Berlin > Dennis > DL6NVC > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:25:19 +0100 >> Von: henny van elst >> An: blacksheep >> Betreff: LF: 184khz > >> hi Joe >> nothing seen >> henny pa3cpm >> best 73s > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen:= http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > >