Return-Path: Received: from rly-md06.mx.aol.com (rly-md06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.144]) by air-md02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD023-90d4963ee9b344; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:52:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md06.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD065-90d4963ee9b344; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:51:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LKLi4-00083k-5l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:51:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LKLi3-00083b-PA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:51:43 +0000 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.2]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LKLi2-0001ox-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:51:43 +0000 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.d2d.445a4dc3 (37092) for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Black (g229119193.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.229.119.193]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB072-90e44963ee8428; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:51:33 -0500 Message-ID: <49365F458F6347C08B117A1C265A6658@Black> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <002301c9704a$4f158130$6c01a8c0@DELL4> <000d01c9704f$deaa7490$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <000d01c9704f$deaa7490$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:51:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 137 kHz T/A Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1251"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jay, yes, I absolutely agree to your point. We did want to use the upper TA window during our evenings to have a chance to get on the BY/KL1X grabber. But I'd suggest we follow the example set by RU6LA a couple of days ago, and QSY down to the Eu transmit window after midnight UT for possible stateside reception. Now that everything is connected here, I intend to fire up the "NM" beacon again on 136318.3 for the rest of tonight. Best wishes Markus, DF6NM ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep" Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:41 PM Subject: LF: 137 kHz T/A 137 kHz EU stations There are probably at least a few stations in the US (including me!) that have been and are still interested in receiving your signals. Unfortunately, all EU stations seem to have moved their transmitters into the US transmitting window at 137778 kHz. When US stations are transmitting (which is often) this prevents any chance for reception of EU stations at many receiving locations. Looking back at T/A captures from years past I see that the EU transmitting window was previously centered on 136318 kHz. This provided adequate frequency separation and I was successful at receiving stations with even modest setups. I wonder how this frequency change came about and whether EU stations would consider going back to their old transmitting window. Thoughts? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/1 (blind toward EU on 137 kHz...)