Return-Path: Received: from rly-de01.mx.aol.com (rly-de01.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.137]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE031-4b1497cc10f1b1; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:44:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE016-4b1497cc10f1b1; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:44:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LRAtr-0004Cr-2y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:44:07 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LRAtq-0004Cg-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:44:06 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRAtl-0007ez-Ee for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:44:06 +0000 X-Trace: 133230635/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.2.20/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.2.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEAAtQfElYagIU/2dsb2JhbACDRD+GFoNFvE8GhUU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,322,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="133230635" Received: from 88-106-2-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.2.20]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 19:43:39 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <20090125092908.0aec06a4@lurcher><7EC707A6E2D94414AEBBC52C6159581C@JimPC><002001c97f0a$cf16fac0$ae01a8c0@youry0mkaz8jaq><20090125165335.47fc3399@lurcher><7690F13DCE5D44BA8A5AA126607E7979@JimPC> <20090125180430.1d63e1c7@lurcher> <6449616DC58940A19C537A59F53828DA@AGB> <00d201c97f20$bd909520$6401a8c0@asus> <00d301c97f22$87d998d0$6401a8c0@asus> <01c501c97f23$901b9740$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:43:39 -0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c97f25$38b8c340$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <01c501c97f23$901b9740$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acl/I9MonsetTvgaSOischcvwC3AkwAAKdQw X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Mal, LF, Thanks for the report Mal. The best I can make of the ERP with the antenna current right at the bottom of the meter scale, antenna dimensions & the ERP spread sheet is 2 mW ERP. It has to be very low as my antenna is just a 9 metre vertical at the moment with capacity hat & 5 watts Tx power. I am very surprised & pleased that it is going so well. It just shows how well this weak signal mode performs. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 25 January 2009 19:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 Gary I got a decode at 192600 15 -11 0.5 -98 0 G4WGT 1083 27 I hope this helps mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > LF, > > Regarding my WSPR settings, the power is not a correct evaluation at the > moment. My Tx power is about 5 watts but the ERP will be very much lower & > as I have not calculated it as yet I have just inserted -27dB. > > When I make the calculation I will insert the correct figure. > > Cheers, > > Gary - G4WGT. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 25 January 2009 19:12 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: RE: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > > Hi All, > > In agreement with John & Graham, I believe that makes sense. The top part > of > the band is probably the least used area so we just need to agree on a > 200Hz > slot of either 503.800 to 504.000KHz with no guard band or 503.700 to > 503.900KHz with a 100Hz guard band. > > My WSPR beacon is now active using dial frequency 502.000KHz & 503.550KHz > data. > > Looks like Andy just beat me to the announcement. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham > Sent: 25 January 2009 18:32 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > > John, > > Looks close to my post , just, as wspr is such a narrow mode, could move > to > > the band edge without problems > clear of the occasional qrss slightly lower down > > With a move to vfo/exciter control, defining the wspr slot is a > reasonable > concept as it will allow other 'casual' > monitor stations to be established .. and negate the number of post > needed > to announce a test ! > > What of the beacons that used this area of the band , are they qrt or just > sleeping ? > > G .. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John P-G" > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:04 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR 503.5 > >> >> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:40:27 +0000 >> Andy Talbot wrote: >> >>> Is there some sort of unofficial bandplan on this band? >> >> Oh no! >> >> Please let's not get into this again.... >> >> At the moment there is no bandplan, but general concensus would >> indicate "beacons at the band edges - real QSOs in the middle". >> >> The current WSPR activity around 503.5 (502.0 dial) seems reasonable, >> although moving up a few hundred Hz wouldn't hurt, say to 502.3 dial >> which gives a 200Hz window at 503.7 - 503.9 >> >> There are often CW mode beacons near the bottom of the band - GI4DPE, >> GW3UEP and others, and it's convenient to have them there - it allows >> monitoring them and SK6RUD concurrently. >> >> >> That's just my view on how things have evolved. >> >> "Real Man's CW" seems to live around 502.63 >> >> John >> GM4SLV >> >> >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: >> 1/24/2009 20:40 >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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