Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA071-a5c4965d38d330; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:21:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA034-a5c4965d38d330; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:21:02 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LKs05-0001LK-PI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:20:29 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LKs05-0001LB-5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:20:29 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.233] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LKs03-0006ex-NI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:20:29 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8FAKdhZUlOkFr5/2dsb2JhbACCQC+BZ4ZdBrgkCIsGhDsIFAGBHQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.90.249]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 08 Jan 2009 10:20:21 +0000 Message-ID: <00a401c9717a$b6281a00$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <00b701c97028$b2fd5780$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <4964D695.6010700@g3ysx.org.uk> <012a01c970e9$56c40e70$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CB3F237D425AD4-1468-125@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:20:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C9717A.B5CB2CF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C9717A.B5CB2CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pat om The newspapers are full of comments every day about how badly A level stude= nts are performing, how the pass mark has dropped and how education has decl= ined over the years, and amateur radio exams are no different. How can multi= ple choice papers, with all the answers written down, where the candidate ju= st ticks a box be more difficult than sitting down with a blank piece of pap= er, pencil and an exam question paper. It stands to reason even if you know little or nothing about a subject and t= ick a few boxes you could be lucky, but there is no element of luck with a b= lank piece of paper, you must know your subject. These observations are not mine alone, the daily press if full of adverse co= mments about those in society than cannot read nor write nor count, and it i= s a big percentage in excess of 20%.=20 Address your remarks to higher authority if you have a complaint and argue y= our own corner, you do not know what opinions others have insulted or otherw= ise. You have deviated away from the Subject, let us have your opinion on ru= sty razors and high impedence ear pieces, and how to construct such devices,= you have passed a real radio amateur exam, so this should be old hat for yo= u. =20 Higher authority would be Newspaper Editors, Education Minister and director= of examination boards and the marking agency. g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g4gvw@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX Mal, Bearing in mind that I was born in 1943 and did the RAE when it required F= ULL WRITTEN answers AND hand drawn circuits with worked calculations I consi= der your remark suggesting an ability only to be able to cope with multiple=20= choice exam papers to be an impertinence. It is probable that others may feel equally ill-disposed and consider your= remarks to be the inflammatory cause of some of the trading of insults. Seems my wish for a more adult and mannered 2009 did not last long! 73 de Pat G4GVW =20 -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:59 Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX Stewart=20 This is a simple exercise and NO ONE knows how to do it, plenty of comment= s and deviations.=20 An analogy=20 =20 1. Some HI TECH RAF pilots asked to fly a WW2 SPITFIRE and found it diffic= ult and performed badly, needed training and tuition.=20 =20 2. Hi Performance students A + in their subjects could not pass a 1960 GCE= paper in maths and english.=20 =20 These were recent UK TV productions.=20 =20 RF engineers and improvisers are scarce it would appear both old and new.=20= Digital and DC are abundant.=20 =20 Take away the Internet source, Maplins and Farnell and the electronics wor= ld would collapse.=20 =20 g3kev=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stewart Bryant" =20 To: =20 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:21 PM=20 Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX=20 =20 > mal hamilton wrote:=20 >> Since I mentioned a Razor blade and fence wire RX a while back I have=20 >> had several requests for a circuit. To give others the opportunity to=20 >> submit a cct I will await replies.=20 >=20 > I think that we all give up - just tell us how to do it.=20 >=20 > Stewart/G3YSX=20 >=20 >=20 =20 --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------=20 =20 =20 No virus found in this incoming message.=20 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1879 - Release Date: 1/6/2009=20= 5:16 PM=20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move= . Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Pat om
The newspapers are full of comments every d= ay about=20 how badly  A level students are performing, how the pass mark has dropp= ed=20 and how education has declined over the years, and amateur radio e= xams=20 are no different. How can multiple choice papers, with all the answers=20 written down, where the candidate just ticks a box be mo= re=20 difficult than sitting down with a blank piece of paper, pencil and an=20= exam=20 question paper.
It stands to reason even if you k= now=20 little or nothing about a subject and tick a few boxes you co= uld=20 be lucky, but there is no element of luck with a blank piece of paper, = you=20 must know your subject.
These observations are not mine alone= ,=20 the daily press if full of adverse comments about those in=20 society than cannot read nor write nor count, and it is a big percentage in=20 excess of 20%.
Address your remarks to higher authority if= you=20 have a complaint and argue your own corner, you do not know what opinio= ns=20 others have insulted or otherwise. You have deviated away from the=20 Subject, let us have your opinion on rusty razors and high=20 impedence ear pieces, and how to construct such devices, you have passed a=20 real radio amateur exam, so this should be old hat for=20 you.   
Higher authority would be Newspaper Editors= ,=20 Education Minister and director of examination boards and the marking=20 agency.
g3kev
 
  
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g4gvw@aol.com <= /DIV>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9= :10=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX
<= BR>
Mal,

Bearing in mi= nd=20 that I was born in 1943 and did the RAE when it required FULL WRITTEN answ= ers=20 AND hand drawn circuits with worked calculations I consider your remark=20 suggesting an ability only to be able to cope with multiple choice exam pa= pers=20 to be an impertinence.

It is probable that others may feel equally=20 ill-disposed and consider your remarks to be the inflammatory cause of som= e of=20 the trading of insults.

Seems my wish for a more adult and mannered= =20 2009 did not last long!

73 de Pat G4GVW  


-----Original Message-----
From: mal hamilton=20 <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent:= =20 Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:59
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX

Stewart 
This=20 is a simple exercise and NO ONE knows how to do it, plenty of comments and= =20 deviations. 
An analogy 
 
1. Some HI TECH RAF pil= ots=20 asked to fly a WW2 SPITFIRE and found it difficult and performed badly, ne= eded=20 training and tuition. 
 
2. Hi Performance students A + in= =20 their subjects could not pass a 1960 GCE paper in maths and=20 english. 
 
These were recent UK TV=20 productions. 
 
RF engineers and improvisers are scarce it= =20 would appear both old and new. Digital and DC are=20 abundant. 
 
Take away the Internet source, Maplins and=20 Farnell and the electronics world would=20 collapse. 
 
g3kev 
 
----- Original Messa= ge=20 ----- 
From: "Stewart Bryant" <stewart@g3ysx.org.uk> 
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org> 
Sent:=20 Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:21 PM 
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade=20 RX 
 
> mal hamilton wrote: 
>> Since I=20 mentioned a Razor blade and fence wire RX a while back I=20 have 
>> had several requests for a circuit. To give others=20= the=20 opportunity to 
>> submit a cct I will await=20 replies. 
> 
> I think that we all give up - just te= ll=20 us how to do it. 
> 
>=20 Stewart/G3YSX 
> 
> 
 
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