Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (rly-dc08.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.37]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC103-b3c495186f8100; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:49:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC088-b3c495186f8100; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:48:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHvW-0005Ao-QD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:48:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LFHvW-0005Af-42 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:48:42 +0000 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LFHvS-0006NX-Qd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:48:42 +0000 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id l.cdd.43ba9aff (37057) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.152]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB043-5bc3495186d55e; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:48:25 -0500 Received: from MBLK-M01 (mblk-m01.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.34]) by smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB012-5bc3495186d55e; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:48:21 -0500 References: <20081223.124618.3484.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:48:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20081223.124618.3484.1.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 40627-STANDARD Received: from 92.1.230.132 by MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:48:21 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB337874543510-B70-603@MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,FORGED_AOL_TAGS, HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MAL ADROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE Now that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it ! Sorry about the puny sense of Christmas Cracker humour folks but the Season's Best Wishes To You All 73 de Pat G4GVW -----Original Message----- From: riese-k3djc@juno.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon rather indicates he is Mal adroit ? Bob K3DJC On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G writes: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 > Scott Tilley wrote: > > > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW > op, > > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use > on > > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > > believe your logic. > > Scott, it's even worse than that! > > Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to > match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the > bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, > or > 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the > QSO > in hand. > > Talk about a spectrum hog. > > If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what > he > preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise > spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum > transmit > power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, > naturally. > > At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode > transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, > he > hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using > another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. > > People in glass houses should put the catapult down. > > John > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Turn your passion into a profession. Click here to find a film school near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TzjbTKMz5R6cKF12mmHIU13yovwrfcNykVHG4dBQ99ZaRp/ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ----------MB_8CB3378745DBD84_B70_C4D_MBLK-M01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
MAL ADROIT 'KEY' MAL 'Y' PENSE

Now that as a motto has quite a seasonal ring about it !

Sorry about the puny sense of Christmas Cracker humour folks but the Season's Best Wishes To You All


73 de Pat G4GVW


-----Original Message-----
From: riese-k3djc@juno.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon

rather indicates he is Mal adroit ?



Bob K3DJC



 

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 John P-G

<gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> writes:

> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800

> Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net> wrote:

> 

> > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW 

> op, 

> > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use 

> on

> > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really

> > believe your logic.

> 

> Scott, it's even worse than that! 

> 

> Mal isn't often  to be observed moving his transmit frequency to

> match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the

> bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, 

> or

> 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the 

> QSO

> in hand.

> 

> Talk about a spectrum hog.

> 

> If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what 

> he

> preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise

> spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum 

> transmit

> power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit,

> naturally.

> 

> At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode

> transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, 

> he

> hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using

> another 50Hz elsewhere on the band.

> 

> People in glass houses should put the catapult down.

> 

> John

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

 

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