Return-Path: Received: from rly-me04.mx.aol.com (rly-me04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.38]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME043-9ad493842539c; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:49:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME041-9ad493842539c; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:49:26 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L8L83-0002cO-8Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L8L82-0002cF-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru ([81.19.67.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8L7z-0001Re-0i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from mcgi20.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi20.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED31B847 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:48:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [91.77.89.227] by mcgi20.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:39 +0300 From: Roman RW3ADB To: Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <004301c9549b$d0f65b40$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <001601c954a2$867a58d0$6401a8c0@asus> <49357311.2090801@yahoo.com> <004701c954ab$e82fb030$6401a8c0@asus> <009901c954b1$cd776bb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <57a24ca70812021335q6a2ba8f8n3572914116fd6293@mail.gmail.com> <4935B62C.5010806@yahoo.com> <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <493832DF.3000707@usa.net> Message-Id: <504080487.1228423719.256232412.42891@mcgi20.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alberto & LF! * Alberto di Bene [Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:43:27 +0100]: > I read here comments about the (lack of) sensitivity of the Degen 1103 > when receiving DCF77 > or other signals below 100 kHz. What is the magic spell to convince it > to go below 100 kHz ? > If I manually enter, let's say, 80, then press the AM button, it says > Err in the display... > If I tune downward, when trespassing the 100 kHz limit, it goes at > 107.95 FM.... The russian origin "How to "open" 1103 b4 100 kHz and more 30 MHz": http://mods.radioscanner.ru/degen/mod29/ The google text translation: (excuse, web-translator banned onto=20 radioscanner.ru) Interesting information about the possibility DE1103 take less than 100=20 kHz was published on the Internet. It has been said about this on our=20 pages (in fact, has found a way to enhance reception of above 30 MHz -=20 thanks to a separate party luv). People receiver built into their=20 offspring hidden talent, the key to that quickly spread through the=20 worldwide network. Enjoy a party that is a refinement manipulations need=20 only receiver on the keyboard, without disassembly. The process=20 =ABdisclosure=BB band reception in DE1103 interesting in itself, and the=20 result is of admirable idea (a joke?) Engineers, to expand an already=20 extensive border radio in DE1103. Many owners of the receiver of the=20 number of visitors to the site successfully reiterated that=20 =ABdisclosure=BB. Below is a guide to expand the range of receiving less than 100 kHz. 1. Turn on the receiver and configure it to the frequency of 21951 kHz=20 direct dial on the numeric keypad (2-1-9-5-1 - =ABBAND=BB). 2. Press two buttons: =ABBAND-=BB and =ABBAND=BB before crawling down the=20 frequency. 3. Wait for approaching the current frequency scanning to the low end of=20 the reception of 100 kHz (this can take a decent time). Do not touch all=20 the time valkoder - his touch and stop scanning process will repeat=20 again. When scanning reaches the lower limit of 100 kHz and move it, be=20 careful. Now you need to stop the scan by pressing any button or turning=20 valkodera. Display frequencies below 100 kHz will be three-digits, for=20 example, 50 kHz: 4. It should write this or any frequencies below 100 kHz in cell memory:=20 hold =ABSTORE=BB, then turn by valkoder number of memory cells, release and= =20 then again =ABSTORE=BB. Better to use a cell at the beginning of the bank -=20 more convenient for future use. Note: choose recorded frequency (adjust to it) needs only valkoderom. For =ABdisclosure=BB above 30 MHz the following steps: 1. Turn on the receiver and configure it to the frequency of 21951 kHz=20 by direct dial on a digital keyboard (2-1-9-5-1 - =ABBAND=BB). 2. Press two buttons: =ABBAND-=BB and =ABBAND=BB before the start crawling d= own=20 the frequency. 3. Stop scan by pressing any button, then click =ABBAND=BB and hold it up to= =20 start crawling up the frequency. 4. Wait for achieving higher frequency 29950 kHz and stop crawling.=20 Record the frequency of stops in any cell memory. 5. Call the recorded cell memory button =ABM / F=BB and go to the manual=20 re-clicking this button. On display will be the previously recorded=20 frequency, and the inscription =ABMEM=BB on the right side of the display is= =20 replaced by =ABVOL=BB. 6. Start crawling up the frequency of Press and hold the button =ABBAND=BB.=20 Scanning move abroad 30 MHz (reading, the display will be the type of=20 type =ABB0000=BB, where the first character - turned the letter B). Note:=20 You need to have time to stop crawling on the testimony of the display=20 between =ABB0001=BB and =ABB0009=BB (30.001-30.009 MHz). Now with the help of valkodera can be configured above. The main catch=20 to stop scanning in the interim, and then adjust higher valkoderom=20 =ABB0010=BB. If you do not do this and do not stop scanning, then=20 immediately after the frequency =ABB0010=BB (30.010 MHz) receiver moves to=20 the band FM. The work will be wasted and will have to repeat the steps=20 beginning with paragraph 5, so 7. After crawled Tune valkoderom stop at any frequency higher than=20 =ABB0010=BB and record it convenient for future use cell memory. Now with the help of valkodera can be configured above. The main catch=20 to stop scanning in the interim, and then adjust higher valkoderom=20 =ABB0010=BB. If you do not do this and do not stop scanning, then=20 immediately after the frequency =ABB0010=BB (30.010 MHz) receiver moves to=20 the band FM. The work will be wasted and will have to repeat the steps=20 beginning with paragraph 5, so 7. After crawled Tune valkoderom stop at any frequency higher than=20 =ABB0010=BB and record it convenient for future use cell memory. Now you can take DE1103 below 100 kHz and above 30 MHz. But the setting=20 for these frequencies different from the conventional way of setting in=20 DE1103. The frequency of =ABdiscovered=BB band can not dial direct input=20 from the keyboard. Nor can it be to move into new ranges and using the=20 change range =ABBAND-=BB or =ABBAND=BB. You can only call pre-programmed cel= l=20 memory with any =ABdisclosed=BB frequencies below 100 Hz or above 30.010 MHz= =20 and pressing =ABM / F=BB switch to manual. Valkodera rotation or the=20 inclusion of scanning can be set at the desired frequency, but if the=20 difference between the frequency of =ABentry=BB from memory and frequency=20 control much have to spend a lot of time to restructure. So add a few=20 =ABround=BB frequency of separation (eg B0000 =BB,=AB B1000 =BB,=AB B2000=20= =BB...) in=20 memory of the receiver for convenience and speed of future setup. Need Is =ABuncovered=BB DE1103 reception in general? Each owner DE1103=20 decide for himself. Above 30 MHz in the settlements can be heard=20 everyday phone, working with narrowband FM. In a small detuning able to=20 clearly take this type of modulation in the AM. In some regions remained=20 =ABPeople's business=BB transmitters in the band 33-38 MHz, also using a=20 narrow World Cup. Below 100 kHz really listen, perhaps the only one =ABsight=BB - signals the=20 station master at the time, frequency, 66 (6) kHz. To do so would have=20 to connect an external antenna connector to the receiver. Incidentally, found that after the procedure =ABdisclosure=BB receiving less= =20 than 100 kHz, you can choose the type of antenna used at frequencies up=20 to 1710 kHz - internal magnetic or telescoping. The original factory option when setting below 1710 kHz always included=20 magnetic antenna, telescoping antenna while turned off. The same rule=20 remains in the =ABopened=BB DE1103 when setting it on the frequency 1710 kHz= =20 below the normal way (direct dial buttons to change frequencies or=20 bands). But if =ABenter=BB to the disclosure below 100 kHz range by invoking= =20 the memory cell with =ABlow=BB frequency, moving then to the manual=20 re-pressing =ABM / F=BB, as described above, the reception will be made on=20 the telescopic antenna. In follow-setting valkoderom higher frequency of=20 admission to the telescopic antenna remains. Return to the magnetic=20 antenna is made as soon as tuning to the frequency 1710 kHz below the=20 usual way - via a digital set or a button-shift range. Note that in the =ABold=BB DE1103 during a reception on a magnetic antenna=20 (for frequencies below 1710 kHz) at any time you can switch to an=20 external antenna, by its mere inclusion in the antenna connector. You=20 can also come in the =ABnew=BB DE1103 with a finalized jack. But in=20 nedorabotannom factory receiver new version to use an external antenna=20 below 1710 kHz will fail. Only after =ABdisclosure=BB receiving less than=20 100 kHz in the =ABnew=BB DE1103 an opportunity to shift magnetic telescopic=20 antenna on to the above methods, and only then, can be signs of external=20 antenna connected to the connector instead of telescoping. How to find a=20 way to connect external DV / CB antenna harder in practice, not to=20 mention the obviously sad behavior =ABnew=BB DE1103 factory with an external= =20 antenna. > TNX PS- My DE-1103 working well from 1 kHz to 100 kHz. Used an external ant=20 input only into "open" variant. I copy RBU 66.6 kHz near Moscow well 2 "briks" on s-meter. I copy well DCF-39, HGA-55. Tryed to copy QRSS-3 on 505 kHz well and=20 RN3AGC signals on 137.777.5 kHz well. Russian op's tryed to copy DCF-77 in EU russia into "clear" place into=20 forests. The results was well. (I'm do not copy DCF-77 in Moscow as well) Tryed to copy 18-27 kHz rtty too with good results. I hope trying to copy SAQ next transmission on DE-1103. My 80m's band sloper not so good antenna for LF/MF, but I copy all these=20 signals. DE-1103 working well up to 35-39 MHz as usual. My variant working up to=20 37.5 But I copy a old cordless phones in NFM into AM wide mode over 30 Mhz=20 only. > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > -- Roman RW3ADB.