Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (rly-dc01.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.30]) by air-dc05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC052-b0349564e7c20; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC017-b0349564e7c20; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:49:18 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbPM-0005eq-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGbPL-0005eh-Qb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGbPG-0004FJ-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:55 +0000 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EB22AC16F for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.45U) with ESMTP id XID186mLAPWO2351X01; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:40 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID186mLAPWO2351X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.47.208.158] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.48O) with ESMTPA id 338mLAPWn2272M38; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:48:39 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.208.158 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:48:36 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081124-0, 11/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID338mLAPWn2272X38 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) This afternoon I tried to receive something at 10,140.2 kHz in WSPR mode. I'm being a bit OT here, as that frequency is not classifiable as LF, but the results are directly applicable also to the 137 and 500 kHz segments. I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* unfounded. 73 Alberto I2PHD 1506 -10 3.5 10.140138 3 EB1APK IN73 20 1506 -26 1.4 10.140190 4 IK5FKF JN54 37 1508 -26 1.4 10.140242 1 K1JT FN20 37 1510 -10 1.3 10.140130 1 OY4TN IP62 33 1512 -14 3.5 10.140148 1 EB1APK IN73 20 1512 -20 1.3 10.140205 0 G4TRA IO81 30 1516 -16 1.7 10.140196 0 RA6AS KN93 37 1520 -17 1.4 10.140136 0 OY4TN IP62 33 1520 -24 1.3 10.140210 0 G4TRA IO81 30 1522 -31 3.5 10.140153 0 EB1APK IN73 20 1522 -26 1.3 10.140250 -1 ZL3IN RE66 30 1528 -29 0.5 10.140217 0 HB9TJM JN36 37 1528 -29 1.4 10.140253 0 K1JT FN20 37 1530 -23 3.4 10.140155 0 EB1APK IN73 20 1530 -27 1.8 10.140271 0 VK2SRO QF56 37