Return-Path: Received: from rly-da07.mx.aol.com (rly-da07.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.81]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA072-a7a49579ac81eb; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA072-a7a49579ac81eb; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:27:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxXc-0008JT-Ag for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGxXb-0008JK-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGxXb-0001V0-0e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C5E7B8043 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3788331E703 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B08F31E702 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C0CD3553D; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from 226.64-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (226.64-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.64.226]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20081228162647.89ttjdv4sbkgkw0g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:47 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> In-Reply-To: <005a01c968ff$2a99ee10$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 87.65.64.226 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Gary, if the QSB comes from multiple path propagation (where one of both of the paths is changing) QSB can be different on different frequencies. One could even use the QSB/frequency pattern to determine the path changes. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > Hi LF, > > > > Just made an interesting observation regarding QSB at 508KHz. > > > > For my own benefit I have started running a slow SpecLab showing 500 to > 510KHz & capturing for evaluation. > > > > Occasionally the NDB "Z" shows up. The strange thing is that even though the > carrier on 508KHz & the two ID offsets at 509 & 507KHz are relatively close > they each display at different depth of fading or an out of phase fade > pattern. > > > > I am unsure why this should be, any comments please, see capture at link :- > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ZNDB.jpg > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QP. > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm