Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDF062-5624950b883241; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:19 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF073-5624950b883241; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:08:04 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4B7-00044N-CX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LF4B7-00044D-05 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:53 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LF4B6-0007hE-9c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:52 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [10.0.0.8]) by rsync.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0713B847 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:07:45 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20081223100745.4757f152@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0800 Scott Tilley wrote: > o assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on > the band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really > believe your logic. Scott, it's even worse than that! Mal isn't often to be observed moving his transmit frequency to match the other station, so his QSOs usually take up double the bandwidth than is needed, and on top of that he often operates on 2, or 3, bands at once, and with more power than strictly needed for the QSO in hand. Talk about a spectrum hog. If he's really keen on spectrum conservation he should practice what he preaches - net accurately, ensure correct keying shape to minimise spectral occupancy of his CW signal and utilise the minimum transmit power needed for each QSO. Never exceeding the 1W ERP limit, naturally. At a lowly 12 wpm he must occupy almost 50Hz, how many WSPR mode transmissions could more usefully fit into that space? If, as usual, he hasn't netted accurately, or at all, his QSO partner is also using another 50Hz elsewhere on the band. People in glass houses should put the catapult down. John