Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (rly-mg10.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.116]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG071-a3b494fb5672bd; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG105-a3b494fb5672bd; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:42:33 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmvF-0003Vh-9z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LEmvE-0003VY-Sy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LEmvD-0001CK-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:20 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEANxDT0lOlpcj/2dsb2JhbACEVbluWI9rhkM Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.150.151.35]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 15:42:13 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c9644b$dd153850$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000701c962f1$b79b04c0$4201a8c0@home> <016901c963c8$1c543720$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <494EE0A8.5040607@telus.net> <004501c963cf$24a20db0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <000901c96356$9dffe3e0$4201a8c0@home> <006601c96428$a8c6cc80$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <494FAFCE.8060100@telus.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Tilley" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: 500kHz WSPR Beacon > MAL wrote "..., which takes up a lot less bandwidth." > > Wrong, unless the little world you live in doesn't obey the laws of > Physics and you really believe CW takes no BW. > > Most if not all viable digi modes on 600m operate in such a manner that > they do not generate bandwidth wasting sidebands like even the best CW > transmitters do by the simple nature of the keying. Worst case a PSK31 > signal occupies 32Hz. A WSPR signal occupies 6Hz. Both modes allow for > many QSOs or beacons in a small sliver of the band. I see no reason > that any of these modes cannot coexist with little or no impact on each > other or CW aficionados pursuing their passion. How can they coexist if it is proposed to fill the 3 khz slot with WSPR BEACONS, where does the CW man operate. You are correct about CW it does indeed take up bandwidth, but hand sent morse or qrs 3 is very economic in bandwidth terms - good observation on your part!!!!!!!!!! G3KEV > > http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/index.html > > If the above is alittle too much for your small mind try this simple > rule of thumb: > /CW Bandwidth/ = wpm X 4 > > So assuming your bluster is true and you are the world's best CW op, > your bandwidth is surly more than any digi mode currently in use on the > band and you should either slow down or go QRT if you really believe > your logic. > > I await your further ramblings on how you've saved the world with CW and > we're all lessor men for just not getting it... With luck you'll stop > wasting internet bandwidth with your nonsense. > > 73 Scott > VE7TIL > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1859 - Release Date: 12/20/2008 2:34 PM