Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma06.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA063-8c04957c94210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA082-8c04957c94210; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:45:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dT-0004lv-0Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LH0dS-0004lm-KQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:10 +0000 Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LH0dS-0002cO-1b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:10 +0000 X-Trace: 124423815/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.121.196/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.121.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAINXV0lYannE/2dsb2JhbACDQkCGB4Mqr3dYjnkGhj4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,292,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124423815" Received: from 88-106-121-196.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.121.196]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2008 18:45:04 +0000 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <9051.82.161.81.65.1230483108.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <000501c96910$9d6f9aa0$4201a8c0@home> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:45:04 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c9691c$65b2b0a0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000501c96910$9d6f9aa0$4201a8c0@home> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclpEQjQaIv9WFpPQR2MIELaLwCL+gACqTYA X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: 500KHz QSB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, LF, I have the very handbook - Vol II "Wireless Telegraphy Theory" I didn't even think of looking there, a very good section on propagation. Probably many other things if I care to look. I only got it as a collectable item relating to radio communications. I must be careful though as it is very flimsy now with age. 73 Gary - G4WGT. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz Sent: 28 December 2008 17:21 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 500KHz QSB Dear Gary, LF Group, Quoting from the Propagation chapter of the Admiralty Handbook of Wireless Telegraphy 1938 edition: "It is usually observed that the different frequency components of a modulated wave fade in a manner which is independent of each other. This has been termed "selective fading"... ...The use of ICW ["interrupted continuous wave" i.e. modulated CW as with the NDBs] at H/F is therefore a means of combating fading in telegraphic work." So the idea of increasing the signal bandwidth to combat selective fading is not entirely new... MCW beacons anyone? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU