Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (rly-mg08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.114]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG043-a2d4942d8af19a; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg08.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG087-a2d4942d8af19a; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFdL-0000CQ-AN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LBFdK-0000CH-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBFdK-00010r-0l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 23911 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2008 21:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=V+Y/w4RBBd14vZAAX+3L5fhqM2if7WiqG5GERTEtEdEWjD6alh+actTvvtx0Vn0i/sWEKrv37ZB9OMY4/U6FNLExNylbLWe9gC1ijqjolBgXMPuDD0iJ16Hx6/O872Q2EmUPclSwNSalRCCAqlGpmeYSd25QkwOJnfKT2KX78q4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.19.131 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2008 21:33:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: J1skL8MVM1nWQ1O8Lo88YHJE_dhSwBIXuud0SgmqU9YdS0M4UG4dd5MroI79SIlvefmkdiuc2b.17uWFs6W4QM.Cosgl7kJppNe7J1n9dRMsSfMVrD0hu9Z1XvhqYLvRO76Rg0DmQ4bl_fTX_bePbAOGH6eP3k0gjh.QEdT7zIQkd4ln3D5FUcNHoJc.MgteOs34H4B2tRhPbnb2R09x1idzccE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007601c95ca1$43cd7c40$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20081211.192928.3920.2.riese-k3djc@juno.com> <007a01c95bf2$6e2c9ac0$0900a8c0@AM> <4942D3FA.2060606@usa.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:33:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: DEGEN 1103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Alberto , on second thoughts that is probably a good idea as the ferrite loop would probably be off tune down there (and thus very deaf) anyway so the only antenna you could use would be an external wire or the whip (or an adapted mini-whip). It is very difficult to go lower if it is a varactor tuned ferrite because the varactor wll be at max capacity at 100kHz presumably. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: LF: RE: DEGEN 1103 > Alan Melia wrote: > > Hi Bob I dont have one but I dont see why that "trick" would affect the > > hardware.....it is just a trick to fool the procesor into going below > > 100kHz. Of course you dont know what the sensitivity will be like down > > there.Most of these radios have attenuation on the MW and lower to keep the > > IMD from strong BC stations down. So it may not be brilliant down there. > > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > I can confirm, after experimenting, that the fooling of the microprocessor has the negative side effect that the uP > switches away from the internal ferrite antenna, as it has been surreptitiously convinced that the band where the radio > is being tuned on, is outside the LW/MW segment.... there is no a free lunch... so either you use the small telescopic > rod, which on LW/MW is of no use, or resort to an external antenna... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > >