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From: "Scholz, Marco " <marco.scholz@citi.com>
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Sounds like some OM's in the UK not aware the 500KHz band is not
permitted in many European countries. Stations in my country on air with
beacon signals just ordered via extra payment an experimental license.
Not fair to blame them again and again. My view...

73
Marco
DD7PC

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton
Sent: 06 November 2008 11:45
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE

Rik
It has all been done before by the Marine Service, all kinds of radios
and antennas from ships and coastal stations but to mention a few.
Broadcast stations are also abundant on this part of the spectrum, with
a variety of powers and antennas for propagation accessment and
statistical purposes.
Radio amateurs are only playing at it. The 500 khz band is only being
used by around 10 persons world wide, and cannot be taken seriously as a
research and propagation experiment.
The band is void of activity most of the time so where is the so called
research.
What did W1TAG actually see, QRM or vivid imagination,  from the reports
that I saw there are two stns that it could have been a DL or G stn.
Where is the POSITIVE ID.
I need hard facts to be convinced, there is too much guesswork here on
LF/MF reporting.
I see reports like :- I THINK I SAW SOMETHING or WAS THAT YOU ON FREQ
xxxxxxxxxxxx, G3KEV


From: "Rik Strobbe" <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE


> At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>>I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real time=20
>>by sitting at a radio.
>>Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur radio

>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz  to the

>>radio amateur service.
>>G3KEV
>
> Mal,
>
> I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in
Belgium.
> I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting at

> a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation.
> Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other=20
> frequencies where we can make QSO's.
> We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because:
> - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF

> range
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize=20
> their efficiency
> - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission=20
> modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this=20
> specific band
>
> Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but=20
> it is not the main reason for our presence here.
> Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's=20
> beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number=20
> of G-stations worked by G3KEV.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
>
> Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
>
>


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