Return-Path: Received: from rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (rly-mh03.mail.aol.com [172.21.166.139]) by air-mh03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMH033-bc7490c8ec837b; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:16:11 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mh03.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMH037-bc7490c8ec837b; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:15:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KwK47-0005Kv-TG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:15:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KwK47-0005Km-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:15:11 +0000 Received: from mailout.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.27] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KwK46-00032C-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:15:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.120.26]) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id 0E2188C319 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:15:06 +0100 (CET) X-TOYA-AV: AntyVir-Skaner at toya.net.pl Received: from lazir.toya.net.pl ([192.168.120.25]) by localhost (antyvir.toya.net.pl [192.168.120.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OGAytqo+FasD for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:15:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.11.178.152] (lazir [217.113.224.3]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn) by lazir.toya.net.pl (TOYAnet MailServer) with ESMTP id A258E8C314 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:15:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490C8E99.9010509@toya.net.pl> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:15:05 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgTcWCeW5hcnNraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001d01c93c2b$842ef520$0201a8c0@home> <005201c93c36$06279e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <005201c93c36$06279e10$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacon 136/137 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050205050201000102060705" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050205050201000102060705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mal hamilton wrote: > There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four > regular transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and > two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was > wondering why you need more. > mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris > > Hi All, > It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur > beacon on the band. I would like something to check against here. > Vy 73. > Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hi Mal., LF group i think Chris , G4AYT , was considering an amateur beacon ( i.e with ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of a commercial station ( take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz as an example) producing , say, 60000 Watts of erp pwr. you put a "5 cm" piece of wire into antenna socket of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is a little more challenging experience to hear a station with power limits accesible also to your tx equipment not to mention the sensitivity test of your receiving gear anyway, 1 W versus 60000 Watts makes a subtle difference... :-) 73, peter. sq7mpj qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/ --------------050205050201000102060705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mal hamilton wrote:
There is any amount of acty between 135 and 139 khz at least four regular transmissions, especially CFH on 137 and SV on 136 approx, and two vy loud DL commercial stns s9 plus 60 going all the time. I was wondering why you need more.
mal/g3kev
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----- Original Message -----
From: Chris

Hi All,
It would be really great if there was at least one regular amateur beacon on the band. I would like something to check against here.
Vy 73.
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK.=



Hi Mal., LF group

i think Chris=C2=A0 , G4AYT ,=C2=A0=C2=A0 was considering=C2=A0 an amateur= =C2=A0 beacon=C2=A0 ( i.e with ERP power reaching 1 W ) instead of=C2=A0 a commercial station
=C2=A0( take DCF39 at 138.83 kHz=C2=A0 as an example)=C2=A0 producing , say,= 60000 Watts=C2=A0 of erp pwr.=C2=A0 you put a "5 cm" piece of wire=C2=A0 into=C2= =A0 antenna socket
of ur rcvr and you can hear it. it is=C2=A0 a little more challenging experience to hear a station=C2=A0 with power limits=C2=A0 accesible also to= your tx equipment
not to mention=C2=A0 the=C2=A0 sensitivity test of your receiving=C2=A0 gear=
anyway, 1 W versus 60000 Watts makes a subtle difference... :-)

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qth: lodz, poland /jo91rs/

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