Return-Path: Received: from rly-da04.mx.aol.com (rly-da04.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.78]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-a68490c1f1f35a; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:19:51 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da04.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA048-a68490c1f1f35a; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:19:29 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KwCdN-00023w-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:19:05 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KwCdK-00023n-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:19:02 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KwCdJ-0004my-MK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:19:02 +0000 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2863EA1F7 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:19:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38B53EA1EB for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:19:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490C1F04.8090109@online.fr> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:19:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9_=28F1AFJ=29=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <580139.5850.qm@web63606.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <000c01c93b91$990afa60$0900a8c0@AM> <57a24ca70810311539x73f880a3kb650f4577d7329d3@mail.gmail.com> <003401c93bad$4ae0d780$0900a8c0@AM> In-Reply-To: <003401c93bad$4ae0d780$0900a8c0@AM> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Alan , Andy , Warren , If I read you well ! I can arrange my LF 137 Khz until the next solar=20 cycle ! To stop the grabber which have not seen anything any more for one month ! and to make another thing ! I find that it will be interesting to study=20 the increase of the solar activity, perhaps would have surprises ! ..... ( I remember=20 to have copied good signals of Warren in August ) 73 qro Jean-Pierre f1afj Alan Melia a =E9crit : > Hi Warren I dont think anything will prevent TA on 136 but it will become > more difficult as the Sun becomes more active. The original crossings on > 136kHz were made near the last Solar max, but it was necessary to select=20= a > favourable time, or be very lucky. Large flares and associated CMEs lead t= o > increased path loss often for weeks. Good periods have been much more > prevalent during the last 12 months and there have been few major > geomagnetic events. > 1 watt ERP is probably that marginal, higher powers are probably more like= ly > to succeed more often. > > Another factor which muddies things is then when the first crossings were > made we only have 3sec dot available via Robert Horne's Spectrogram. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Beacons from Eu / UK > > > =20 >> Hi Alan, >> =20 >>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is >>> =20 > fairly > =20 >>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the >>> crossing for a few years !! >>> =20 >> What are you expecting to happen that will prevent T/A on 137 in >> the future? >> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XJ etc >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Alan Melia >> =20 > wrote: > =20 >>> Hi Andy there are no stations beaconing continuously on 136khz. However >>> =20 > the > =20 >>> usual way to observe the propagation is my monitoring the idle signal >>> =20 > from > =20 >>> DCF39 138.830 and/or HGA22 on 135.54. DCF39 is located at Burg near to >>> Magdeburg in Germany. HGA22 is located at Lakihegy near Budapest. It is >>> =20 > not > =20 >>> as much fun as QRSS.DFCW, or WOLF, but they are very relaible. Steve >>> =20 > Dove > =20 >>> W3EEE post 24 hour strength plots, though his system is down at present. >>> Most TA attempts from this side are made by arrangement usually via this >>> list. >>> Probably not what you wanted but that is the present status. 136 is >>> =20 > fairly > =20 >>> quiet over here just now, but it may be the last good chance to make the >>> crossing for a few years !! >>> >>> Cheers de Alan G3NYK >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andy - KU4XR" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:13 PM >>> Subject: LF: Beacons from Eu / UK >>> >>> >>> =20 >>>> Greetings from the US: >>>> >>>> I want to monitor 136 / 137 KHz this winter for TA beacons, >>>> if there are any on. Will someone tell me if there are any >>>> that beacon continuously, what mode and frequency, callsign. >>>> If I have a list, and know where to look, that is a starting >>>> place. Thanks for your replies; 73: >>>> >>>> Andy - KU4XR - EM75xr - Friendsville, TN. >>>> LOWfer Beacon " XR " @ 184.322 KHz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> =20 > > > > > =20