Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (rly-dd10.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.157]) by air-dd02.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD023-ba44912be1b12e; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:51:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD106-ba44912be1b12e; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:51:25 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ky1Vc-00012L-Ij for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:50:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ky1Vc-00012C-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:50:36 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.43] (helo=cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ky1VY-0008HW-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:50:36 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2117B8049 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:50:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3229C31E704 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:50:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3DD31E703 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:50:23 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:50:28 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <002601c93fef$2556f800$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <007b01c93f60$25e16ab0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <49120F1F.2040000@yahoo.com> <002601c93fef$2556f800$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081106095023.0E3DD31E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QSO MODE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 At 10:07 6/11/2008, you wrote: >I thought amateur radio was about exchanging information in real >time by sitting at a radio. >Others think beacons and email or telephone reporting is amateur >radio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >It is difficult to justify the continued allocation of 500 khz to >the radio amateur service. >G3KEV Mal, I was involved in the process of getting a 500kHz allocation in Belgium. I can tell you that "exchanging information in real time by sitting at a radio" was not an argument to get this allocation. Why would we need 500kHz to do that, we already have plenty of other frequencies where we can make QSO's. We asked for a 500kHz allocation (and got it) because: - it gives us the opportunity to study the propagation in the lower MF range - it gives us the opportunity to develop small antennas and optimize their efficiency - it gives us the opportunity to develop and test new transmission modes adapted to QRN/QRM levels and limited output power on this specific band Bottom line: there is nothing wrong with making QSO's on 500kHz, but it is not the main reason for our presence here. Whenever we have to justify the 500 kHz allocation facts like G3XIZ's beacon transmission being copied by W1TAG will count, not the number of G-stations worked by G3KEV. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm