Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD053-91449249e74238; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:17:21 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD074-91449249e74238; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:17:11 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1L2wHs-00088O-5B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:16:44 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1L2wHr-00088F-Gw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:16:43 +0000 Received: from smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.63]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L2wHq-0001cD-Hd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:16:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 88936 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2008 23:16:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vqv/inS9KLu1F3D4ATVbAETFsYkzYb7NERyeUlWvTBbk+kjR610+wUKsxCls+1XSFQJu1Of97hZnoryZx1QVDeiIFWacRdCdL67QsROkqGEa/0W7EDHrb9E3GnM2pbiPrWdLfHT+oHoeQGAOhXWjvLuMYqJU5EKjchyajC2j5V0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@81.131.52.215 with login) by smtp803.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2008 23:16:36 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: B4dkiVUVM1nQhYc0Q_UQI.Wg8L9Zhet02.ocqJ3Wz1LKPeszOcVeAgXHgc8gU4sTQgqm65nJWQyr2UjzIOT.GnchnZvTIYEB6dr1sWDUHTjz864zGf_F4H6uYgMdYGauZzzeIy2Ss.douee7KBqdydUDSYLe5p94DqLUitzYS05p7L6oE7fAwxIczaU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <004e01c94a9c$dddbe860$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001e01c94a77$cc1fa780$a402a8c0@Inspiron> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:15:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 3C85/90 Toroids Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Lee, I think the 3C85s were made by Philips and I susppect they have sold of that line look under Neosid, and Epcos (though my link to the latter does not seem to work now, but it is a couple of years since I was searching their site. Just look for the right sized core in a material with a permiability of around 4000, you can get higher values but I believe these may be a bit more lossy. The other trick is to look up the "turns per mH" (or uH) then wid a few turns on an unknown core and see what the inductance comes out at. I bout a couple of massive cores at Donning a couple of years back that had brown and blue mains wire wrapped round them. They were about 6in diam and were brilliant for transformers. The 56uH that was refered to is for the LPF and inductors for these should never be wound on ferrite, low permiability iiron dust possibly but air cored on a 38mm white waste pipe is by far the best. Just make sure the coil axes are orthogonal if they are not screened as the stray fields are much higher than from toroids. Some ideas here http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/toroids.htm#ferrite%20toroids Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Hudson" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: LF: 3C85/90 Toroids > Hi, > > Any suggestions for suppliers of Toroids made from 3C85/90 material rather > than stripping down old SMPS? > > 73, > Lee > M0LMH > >