Return-Path: Received: from rly-de05.mx.aol.com (rly-de05.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.141]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE033-4d648f6cb222f0; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:03:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de05.mx.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE053-4d648f6cb222f0; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:03:32 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KqL0W-00020e-40 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:02:44 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KqL0V-00020V-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:02:43 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.235]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KqL0T-0000x5-NZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:02:43 +0100 Received: from BAY105-W45 ([65.54.224.145]) by bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:02:28 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [212.96.173.101] From: Lubos Bobo To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:02:28 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <008301c92f19$b701b4c0$0900a8c0@AM> References: <008301c92f19$b701b4c0$0900a8c0@AM> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2008 05:02:28.0481 (UTC) FILETIME=[632EEF10:01C92F4C] X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE=1,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5491cbf3-11f8-4850-b1a6-451331aa9751_" Subject: LF: About Blacksheep X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,OFFERS_ETC autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : hotmail.com ; SPF_822_from = ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_5491cbf3-11f8-4850-b1a6-451331aa9751_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Victor, Alan and LF! Two weeks ago I noticed the same problem. All my e-mailes was marked like "S= PAM" and was not send off via Blacksheep server. I didn=B4t why.=20 My question on administrator address Blacksheep was negative - the same resu= lt - "SPAM". HI Finally I got good advice from network administrator of RSGB sides: Try to u= se server in any other domain, for example "HOTMAIL". At first I tryed to use general czech domains, like "seznam.cz" or "atlas.cz= ", but no good result. So ... I created my new e-mail box on Hotmail.com and= all is OK. It works perfectly! A you can see, this e-mail was not been send from my old address lubomir.bob= alik@rtv5.cz, but from bvgbobo@hotmail.com. I think, that a new database of spamers on Blacksheep server is too strick f= or common users, becouse my normal address on local czech domain works witho= ut problems. I must use two e-mail addresses nowadays. One for all my e-mail= communication and other special for Blacksheep only. 73 Lubos, OK2BVG *************************************************** > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:16:07 +0100 > Subject: LF: Re: FW: cpm >=20 > Hi Victor, and Henny one clue might be the "spam score" which seems a > little high. Try some very simple mesages and see if they get through. If > they do view the failed messages for word that may "irritate" the spam > filter. There are occasions where the Blacksheep ISP seems to have > blacklisted an ISP but I cannot be absolutely sure of that. Laurence had > quite some difficulty which might have been caused by the route taken by h= is > messages from Shanghai. > If you still cant see a solution send me another email and I will try and > flag it up, though I suspect there will be nothing the list-owner can do. >=20 > Best Wishes > Alan G3NYK >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Victor van Kooten" > To: "blacksheep" > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: LF: FW: cpm >=20 >=20 > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Victor van Kooten [mailto:vvkooten@wanadoo.nl] > > Verzonden: woensdag 15 oktober 2008 16:35 > > Aan: blacksheep > > Onderwerp: cpm > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > Henny PA3CPM just notified me that since a week or so all hiss messages=20= to > > blacksheep get rejected with the following message: > > > > Your message > > > > > > To: blacksheep > > > Subject: 137 > > > > > > did not reach the following recipient(s): > > > > > > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org on Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:12:42 +0200 > > > There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email > > > server. Please contact your system administrator. > > > > > spam points - rejected> > > > > > > He would very much like to know how to solve this so he can keep contact > > with all of you, > > > > > > 73 > > > > Victor > > PA3FNY > > > > >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ St=E1hni si 30 emotikon=F9 pro tv=F9j Windows Live Messenger ZDARMA! http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/funfamily/cs-cz/=3D --_5491cbf3-11f8-4850-b1a6-451331aa9751_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Victor, Ala= n and LF!
Two weeks ago I noticed the same problem. All my e-mailes was m= arked like "SPAM" and was not send off via Blacksheep server. I didn=B4t why= .
My question on administrator address Blacksheep was negative - the sam= e result - "SPAM". HI

Finally I got good advice from network administ= rator of RSGB sides: Try to use server in any other domain, for example "HOT= MAIL".

At first I tryed to use general czech domains, like "seznam.cz= " or "atlas.cz", but no good result. So ... I created my new e-mail box on H= otmail.com and all is OK. It works perfectly!
A you can see, this e-mail=20= was not been send from my old address lubomir.bobalik@rtv5.cz, but from bvgb= obo@hotmail.com.

I think, that a new database of spamers on Blackshee= p server is too strick for common users, becouse my normal address on local=20= czech domain works without problems. I must use two e-mail addresses nowaday= s. One for all my e-mail communication and other special for Blacksheep only= .

73 Lubos, OK2BVG

*******************************************= ********




> From: alan.me= lia@btinternet.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: We= d, 15 Oct 2008 23:16:07 +0100
> Subject: LF: Re: FW: cpm
>
&= gt; Hi Victor, and Henny one clue might be the "spam score" which seems a> little high. Try some very simple mesages and see if they get through= . If
> they do view the failed messages for word that may "irritate" t= he spam
> filter. There are occasions where the Blacksheep ISP seems t= o have
> blacklisted an ISP but I cannot be absolutely sure of that. L= aurence had
> quite some difficulty which might have been caused by th= e route taken by his
> messages from Shanghai.
> If you still ca= nt see a solution send me another email and I will try and
> flag it u= p, though I suspect there will be nothing the list-owner can do.
> > Best Wishes
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message= -----
> From: "Victor van Kooten" <vvkooten@wanadoo.nl>
>= To: "blacksheep" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesd= ay, October 15, 2008 8:20 PM
> Subject: LF: FW: cpm
>
> <= br>> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
&= gt; > Van: Victor van Kooten [mailto:vvkooten@wanadoo.nl]
> > Ve= rzonden: woensdag 15 oktober 2008 16:35
> > Aan: blacksheep
>= > Onderwerp: cpm
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
&g= t; >
> > Henny PA3CPM just notified me that since a week or so a= ll hiss messages to
> > blacksheep get rejected with the following=20= message:
> >
> > Your message
> > >
> &= gt; > To: blacksheep
> > > Subject: 137
> >=20= >
> > > did not reach the following recipient(s):
> >= ; >
> > > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org on Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15= :12:42 +0200
> > > There was a SMTP communication problem wit= h the recipient's email
> > > server. Please contact your syste= m administrator.
> > > <hpsmtp-eml12.kpnxchange.com #5.5.0= smtp;550 This message scored 4.4
> > > spam points - rejected&g= t;
> >
> >
> > He would very much like to know ho= w to solve this so he can keep contact
> > with all of you,
>= >
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Victor
>=20= > PA3FNY
> >
> >
>
>

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