Return-Path: Received: from rly-df07.mx.aol.com (rly-df07.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.20]) by air-df03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDF034-56348c131df2f4; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:19:33 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF074-56348c131df2f4; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:19:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KbbCv-0007pO-GE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:18:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KbbCv-0007pF-2e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:18:37 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KbbCr-00045h-Vp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:18:36 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D4924A055 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:18:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:18:25 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080905141825.2efa21cc@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <001d01c90f45$037db5a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <001d01c90f45$037db5a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.142 Subject: Re: LF: MF/LF QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sighthound.demon.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:49:03 +0100 "mal hamilton" wrote: > I have never found it necessary to use the so called grabbers Then how about you ignore their existence instead of passing comment in public about the failings, as you see it, of the systems concerened? If radio operating is your thing, not computerised "appliance operating" and other more modern approaches to technical investigation (which is after all what this band is all about, not DXCC collecting or dull repetitive CW QSOS) then why do you even look at them? Surely a dyed in the wool CW man like yourself should eschew PCs, email and the t'internet and stick with good old RF. John