Return-Path: Received: from rly-df03.mx.aol.com (rly-df03.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.16]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDF084-53e48a4197a114; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF037-53e48a4197a114; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbAt-0003Ox-4A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTbAs-0003Oo-J4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:26 +0100 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTbAp-0004n5-2A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:39:26 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id l.cf3.3c9fd693 (34993) for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB016-88b148a4195e3a3; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:10 -0400 Received: from webmail-dd06 (webmail-dd06.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.6]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA033-5c5548a41956244; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38265-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.6) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:39:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8CACC197BC0CF4E-CB4-404@webmail-dd06.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + AS I previously wrote, this hardly qualifies as serious debate. However, the licence PERMITS me to radiate a signal should I so wish.=20 I am thereby allowed choice. For many of us, the experimentation and self-training aspects are=20 primary. I also consider myself to have, by now, satisfied my=20 competitive cravings and contest scores/qsl cards/dxcc etc. pursuits. By continuing to denigrate the activities of others who do not share=20 your particular enthusiasms and prejudices you fail dismally to enthuse=20 newcomers and demonstrate a very narrow-minded view of the world of=20 amateur radio about you. Oh, and by the way I can think of at least one well-known radio amateur=20 who rarely "transmits" but has made a major and recognised contribution=20 to propogation studies at LF. QED. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=20 day! -----Original Message----- From: mal hamilton To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 9:07 Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive.=C2=A0 G3KEV=C2=A0 ----- Original Message ----- From: =C2=A0 To: =C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM=C2=A0 =3D0 ASubject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation=C2= =A0 required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many=C2=A0 things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps=C2=A0 you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial=C2=A0 aerial permit?=C2=A0 I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even=C2=A0 qualifies as sensible debate.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 73 de Pat g4gvw=C2=A0 QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thought for today:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one=C2= =A0 day!=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----=C2=A0 From: mal hamilton =C2=A0 To: rsgb =C2=A0 Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22=C2=A0 Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and=C2=A0 rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard=C2=A0 these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess=C2=A0 they=C2=A0 are not in a position to express an opinion.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Surely I am not the only one capable of building=C2=A0 and operating a CW station in the20UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 G3KEV=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________=C2= =A0 AOL Email goes Mobile! 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