Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG083-a1848b3e7c9206; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:24:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG062-a1848b3e7c9206; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:23:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwe8-0003AW-Pm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXwe8-0003AN-Co for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXwe6-0004yk-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:36 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E3324A010 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.137.53.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user gm4slv) by sighthound.demon.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <59606.212.137.53.1.1219749830.squirrel@sighthound.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <001e01c90769$cf2b6d20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:23:50 +0100 (BST) From: "John P-G GM4SLV" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 531 khz Faroe Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Mal wrote: > This BC station on 531Khz is S9 with me daytime and not a trace of any > sideband noise at this distance. This is a shame, as it might imply that your receiving setup is not quite up to the high standards you claim for it! There is very evident sideband spreading on this signal, with detectable artifacts well away from the nominal 5kHz bandwidth to be expected from a MW station! My spectrum analyzer plots show the signal to be very broad, of the order of 30kHz or more, down to the -115dBm noise floor of the analyzer. Obviously a receiver has a lower noise figure, and in a 250Hz CW bandwidth, much lower signals can be detected, further away from the carrier than this, out to 485kHz. Observing the modulation depth shows that the postive going peaks approach 115% and the negative going peaks totally cut off the carrier a BAD THING. This excessive negative going modulation is most probably the cause of the wideband splatter. I've received spectrum plots and listener reports from other stations, including one in Belgium, which confirm my own observations. I'll put the scans of the spectrum plots online later today if I get a chance, along with comparisons of good stations (two in Scotland and one in Norway) to show the problem in stark detail. > I have a sea path to the Faroes, good reception. But not THAT good, if you can't detect the spectral spreading of this very poorly modulated signal. Are you sure you're operating your receiving APPLIANCE correctly? John