Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (rly-dc10.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.39]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-b4c489a2fca195; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc10.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC108-b4c489a2fca195; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:12:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KQs9u-0000mU-KS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KQs9u-0000mL-6s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KQs9r-0002xk-2a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0100 Received: from bb-87-82-6-86.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.6.86] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1KQs9p-000DG8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: <489A30A6.4040803@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:15:50 +0100 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001a01c8f7a6$aae89460$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <002d01c8f7d8$8ab78a20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <003f01c8f7e6$2b7ab560$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.083 Subject: Re: LF: Tick test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > I suppose the students cannot be blamed, since 1979 its their only > option, no alternative. The RAF technical examining board used objective multiple choice question method in the early 1950s. The Open University used them as CMEs (Computer Marked Assignments) when I started as an undergraduate in 1973. These were backed up with TMAs (Tutor Marked Assignments -essays). I found that the CMAs were always more difficult. > I have heard tales from those that passed the tick test that they > would have failed the old written exams, in fact some admit to having > failed the pre 1979 test but passed later ticking boxes. This was true but not necessarily because the student didn't know his stuff. In 1979 I was teaching an RAE student who had previously failed the RAE twice. I was puzzled by this because he seemed to know the subject and was a keen constructor. It all turned out to be about exam technique. Under the old system he was asked what were the desirable qualities of a VFO oscillator and wrote a couple of pages on the subject and not giving enough time to answer the other questions. When he took the new objective question exam he passed with flying colours. Regards Peter, G3LDO