Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD104-b6c4884a408382; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:58:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c4884a408382; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:58:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KKwpa-0005aH-AF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:57:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KKwpZ-0005a8-Nf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:57:41 +0100 Received: from imo-m11.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.99] helo=imo-m11.mail.aol.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KKwpV-0005Kw-PR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:57:41 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.be5.370ab348 (37033) for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.144]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB023-90a94884a3d627; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:26 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-STG-D01 (webmail-stg-d01.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.22]) by smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA011-5baa4884a3cd25f; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:17 -0400 References: <1KKtyY-2JdIrg0@fwd34.t-online.de> <48848B4B.3070401@w1tag.com> <007e01c8eb37$d0733940$0900a8c0@AM> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <007e01c8eb37$d0733940$0900a8c0@AM> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by WEBMAIL-STG-D01.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.22) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:17 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB95933CB2A8D-648-4E4@WEBMAIL-STG-D01.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LF: Loop Conundrum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + I think, Alan, that to achieve the "Beckham" effect would require that you arrange for the resulting radiation pattern to achieve a "curve" in the general direction of the beam pattern and it will probably be necessary to approach either Penrose or Hawking for the math which will calculate the "bendability" factor on a universal scale! 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one day! -----Original Message----- From: Alan Melia To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:43 Subject: Re: LF: Loop Conundrum Gosh are you guys getting civilised at last, to recognise a spherical football Ok course one would have make corrections for the "Beckham Effect" ! Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Andrews" To: Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: Re: LF: Loop Conundrum > Andy, > > Better yet, take a soccer ball and start winding wire around it until > you have completed a 90 degree arc on both sides. What's the resulting > pattern? > > John Andrews, W1TAG > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.