Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da09.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDA092-a72488206f118d; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:23:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA062-a72488206f118d; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:23:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KKEGI-0007wV-Dy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:22:18 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KKEGH-0007wM-BJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:22:17 +0100 Received: from imo-m12.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.100] helo=imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KKEGE-0002Aq-2U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:22:17 +0100 Received: from G4gvw@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id l.c23.4042923d (37035) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB025-90ab4882069b35e; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:22:03 -0400 Received: from webmail-stg-d05 (webmail-stg-d05.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.26]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.10) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA032-5c544882069134a; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:53 -0400 References: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: g4gvw@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37668-STANDARD Received: from 92.8.27.112 by webmail-stg-d05.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.26) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:54 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAB7CA4F4C7152-970-2632@webmail-stg-d05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.110,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LF: satellites Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + I suspect, Nigel, that "modern" RADCOM reflects "modern" amateur radio=20 in many respects. Whilst acknowledging that the magazine/journal would=20 probably not exist without its advertising, that very advertising is a=20 reflection of what amateur radio is to many of its present day=20 adherents - "appliance operating"! In such an atmosphere and coupled with a younger generation who do not=20 even get a basic grounding in simple workshop techniques and practice=20 is it surprising that the glorious days of articles of quality in home=20 construction no longer appear to suit us "longer-in-the-tooth" types? Modern housing probably also contributes as it provides little room for=20 a space in which to indulge a little messy chassis-bashing and the=20 smoke detectors widely-fitted tend not to be too sympathetic to solder=20 fumes emanating from the cupboard under the stairs. I know a number of local amateurs who have never constructed anything=20 and are probably never likely to do so, preferring to invest their time=20 operating expensive boxes and comparing notes about whose is biggest=20 etc. One in particular was so desperate to work the Antipodes that he just=20 kept on spending until he managed it. It might be that the "amateur radio industry" finds it a profitable=20 strategy to discourage home construction but then again I might be=20 accused by some of cynicism. 73 de Pat g4gvw QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK Thought for today: In the race of life p ut a few quid on the nag called "Self-Interest" -=20 He'll always be in there trying hard ! -----Original Message----- From: GandalfG8@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:38 Subject: Re: LF: satellites In a message dated 16/07/2008 21:07:05 GMT Daylight Time,=20 jwgould@iee.org writes: I've not got an axe to grind re RadCom, but=C2=A0is=C2=A0the lack of major construction projects in RadCom=C2=A0mo= re to do with there being less people doing=C2=A0the larger scale=C2=A0design/construction projects as well as=C2=A0being motivated to write it up for RadCom?=C2=A0 ---------------------- =C2=A0 The use of internet groups to encourage cooperative design, both=20 hardware and software, has led to a real time project structure that doesn't=C2=A0necessarily lend itself to the monthly magazine publishing schedule. =C2=A0 This of course does not=C2=A0only affect RadCom but, unfortunately, RadCom as a serious technical publication started to lose credibility when a=20 recent past editor attempted to turn it into something more akin to=C2=A0Women's Weekly, with his=C2=A0requesting accounts of radio amateur romances on one occasion,=C2=A0whilst dwelling more on his own interviews with radio "personalities" than matters radio, which it would seem he didn't=20 really understand. =C2=A0 Whilst I20don't suppose many tears were shed at his departure it doesn't seem to me the RSGB has done the reputation of RadCom any more favours=20 by employing Elaine Richards in a similar position. Especially when=C2=A0one considers that not very long ago she was suggesting through the pages of her radio comic that reports on any=20 form of radio activity, legal or otherwise,=C2=A0would be welcomed. =C2=A0 If RadCom is=C2=A0taken to be the "shop window"=C2=A0for the RSGB in general, then=C2=A0perhaps it's time to ask what it is they think they're=C2=A0offering us for our money. =C2=A0 For=C2=A0RadCom to be seriously considered as a technical=C2=A0publication again=C2=A0it will be necessary to leave editorial control with those who have=C2=A0real technical ability and=C2=A0not just scrape the barrel for=C2=A0anyone with prior magazine experience. =C2=A0 regards =C2=A0 Nigel GM8PZR ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the=20 move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.