Return-Path: Received: from rly-de03.mx.aol.com (rly-de03.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.139]) by air-de05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDE052-4c748839e9534e; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:23:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de03.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE038-4c748839e9534e; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:22:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KKfQM-00032p-48 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:22:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KKfQL-00032g-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:22:29 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KKfQH-0005xB-QO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:22:29 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B09D61C00089 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.37.113]) by mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 054031C00090 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:09 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080720202210215.054031C00090@mwinf3412.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <32CF539E9AAF4EDB80FFFDA1DA128DEF@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <006e01c8e788$ca7394c0$0900a8c0@AM> <20080717110533.ji3so2ex15i0w8ok@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <487F2369.3701.24D39C@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <001601c8ea81$06520b20$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:22:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: satellites/RadCom Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Telstar ? Some bedtime reading :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2006/03/emp-radiation-from-nuclear-space.html http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=A009208&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Talbot" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:52 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: satellites/RadCom > Which big bang ? A few superpowers may have tested the occasional EMP > weapon with 'interesting' findings, but no one ever deployed one - > they all realised the potential for damaging thier own infrastructure > as well as the target's. And contrary to all the popular sci-fi films > and myths of the era, a normal ground-burst or even air-burst of a few > MT does not generate damaging EMP. It has to be a true exo-atmopheric > explosion at a height to do practically no other damage, and of a > mechanism yielding mainly high energy gamma / X-rays to generate the > necessary Compton scattering. > > The stories put-about back then were incorrect and partly propaganda, > but also genuine misunderstanding of the respective countries' > techology capabilities, and their modus-operandi > > Andy G4JNT > > 2008/7/20 mal hamilton : >> When the big BANG comes you will regret not having learned about >> VALVES/TUBES and how to use them. >> These have a good chance of survival when all the chips have FRIED and >> being >> able to use a morse key a bonus. >> G3KEV >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" >> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:24 AM >> Subject: Re: LF: satellites/RadCom >> >> >>> Two pijnts... >>> 1) Satellites >>> Having just joined Amsat (because I felt I 'ought' to) I'm less than >>> impressed with a) Oscar News which has had no technical content in the >>> two issues so far received, and b) The Amsat -UK web site. In spite >>> of supposed to being able to log in I can't after several requests. >>> Seems there is nothing there anyway >>> So all in all, don't look to much from the UK Am satellite scene. >>> >>> 2) Constructional articles >>> Radcom is always looking out for things. My new column can continue >>> based on years of my own-experimentation and building in quintillions >>> of different subject areas from DC to pink light, digits and analogue, >>> but I would like input from others. Anything that isn't yet another >>> wire antenna or a new H-Mode mixer, and certainly no valves would be >>> welcome; mid-range to upper end technology is preferred using >>> modern(ish, in amateur terms) devices. Don't want to cover simple >>> basics, that is best left to Eamon and Ian in their columns. >>> >>> Waiting... >>> >>> Andy G4JNT >>> www.scrbg.org/g4jnt >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release Date: 7/19/2008 > 14:01 > > >