Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd01.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD011-b6048215bf097; Wed, 07 May 2008 03:36:39 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b6048215bf097; Wed, 07 May 2008 03:36:19 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JteBW-0000IP-VZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 08:35:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JteBW-0000IG-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 08:35:30 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.30] helo=CRAWSMAIL2.uk.thalesgroup.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JteBT-0004BS-Fd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 May 2008 08:35:30 +0100 Received: from crawsmail2.uk.thalesgroup.com (mailsweeper2.int.rdel.co.uk) by CRAWSMAIL2.uk.thalesgroup.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 08:34:28 +0100 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (lisc0022.int.rdel.co.uk) by crawsmail2.uk.thalesgroup.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 08:35:59 +0100 Received: from temps153538.tms-ltd.com ([193.150.182.142]) by mail.uk.thalesgroup.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m477W8fb024071 for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 08:32:08 +0100 Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 7 May 2008 08:35:20 +0100 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898006935B73@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:35:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: ZAP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Oh Dear, it goes on..... Your little world is obviously CW oriented. That's all. On the subject of qualifications - I'm not getting into this one. Apples and Oranges. Paul G8GJA -----Original Message----- From: mal [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Sent: 06 May 2008 18:29 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: ZAP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reeves Paul" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:13 AM Subject: LF: RE: ZAP > And just why would only CW radios survive?? This is news - EMP will ONLY > take out SSB/FM/AM radios!! > > As usual Mal lives in his own little world. Bigger than you think. I worked my way around the world twice before I was 21 as a Wireless Officer and several times since. I also experienced a H-bomb explosion on Christmas Island and have first hand knowledge of EMP and associated effects. No lessions please except you are better qualified than me. G3KEV > > Paul G8GJA > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal [mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net] > Sent: 05 May 2008 18:48 > To: rsgb > Subject: LF: ZAP > > > A recent newspaper report indicates a certain country building up its > ability to ZAP all appliance communications systems ie Satellite and > Internet systems. > and do not forget SATNAV systems. > Bring back Loran and associated nav systems for dependibility with some > national control. > That leaves the average radio amateur appliance operator out of the comms > business. > Those CW operators with real radios and ability to operate them will be the > only source of communications in the end. > Govt agencies also take notice. Real radio amateurs with basic CW and RF > skills should be encouraged. > Some might critize these observations but BEWARE > I have heard stories of ships with the latest communications appliance > devices being unable to contact shore stations and only managed because some > senior staff qualified radio officers on board took over using CW. This > could be the reason why some govt agencies are reluctant to release the 500 > khz CW band and mothballed some costal stations, in fact some ships are > still equipped with MF/HF equipment as well as Sat systems. > > > G3KEV > > > > This email, including any attachment, is a confidential communication > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is > addressed. It contains information which is private and may be proprietary > or covered by legal professional privilege. 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