Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (rly-dd04.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.151]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b71481f654dfc; Mon, 05 May 2008 15:51:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD043-b71481f654dfc; Mon, 05 May 2008 15:51:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Jt6iH-0004Kq-1A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:51:05 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Jt6iG-0004Kh-1Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:51:04 +0100 Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca ([24.222.0.30]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jt6iB-0005xj-SR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:51:03 +0100 Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.10]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0K0E00G2FV4JJG91@mta02.eastlink.ca> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 16:50:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from unknown (HELO vernonmatheson) ([142.176.181.178]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:04:06 -0300 Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:50:41 -0300 From: Vernon Matheson In-reply-to: <005401c8aedf$cce57930$0301a8c0@g3kev> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <6f5efq$bag0ch@ip01.eastlink.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-index: Aciu4HdzoJwhN4pVT0+5nnPeC6A+QgACL4OA X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAICH0iOsLWy/2dsb2JhbAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,439,1204516800"; d="scan'208";a="380109201" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: RE: Survival Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : + Do we have to build any bunkers to house the pedal communication system in? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 15:43 To: rsgb Subject: LF: Survival For reliable communications all that is required is a pedal cycle with a stormyarcher dynamo hub a simple TX/RX and a pump action CW KEY and a proficient CW OPERATOR. The hardware could be engineered out of scrap and operated by a human. Although convenient we do not need the Internet, satellites or associated systems to communicate, these are vunerable devices and can easily be ZAPPED!!! In the end the basic devices will prevail, easily concealed, therefore hard to find and destroy. G3KEV