Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (rly-dd09.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.156]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINDD082-b9a48296c7c5e; Tue, 13 May 2008 06:25:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd09.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD094-b9a48296c7c5e; Tue, 13 May 2008 06:25:02 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Jvrfw-0000zK-N6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 May 2008 11:24:04 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Jvrfw-0000zB-0E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 May 2008 11:24:04 +0100 Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.64]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jvrfr-000856-Ds for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 May 2008 11:24:03 +0100 Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qxt91Z0050SCNGk5702000; Tue, 13 May 2008 10:23:26 +0000 Received: from JAYDELL ([71.234.114.84]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QyPs1Z0061pKLLP3V00000; Tue, 13 May 2008 10:23:52 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LA2STMBXAAAA:8 a=UhPpwy6RciPOom7nzW4A:9 a=zErVRBj6fI4GcYNn_jEA:7 a=M67NTaqfTPw3cVqyCbOq2L9jwnYA:4 a=KHklEoEtryoA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=zUBsD6tbDSsA:10 Message-ID: <006201c8b4e3$71007390$6401a8c0@JAYDELL> From: To: References: <02e301c8b462$074116c0$0301a8c0@g3kev>, <20080512224642.44d27712@lurcher.twatt.local> <4829389F.15162.F0CC8@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 06:23:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: BEACON HELL Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? John Hope you'll reconsider your departure. I find your grabber quite useful for T/A work as well any and all beacon operations. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:43 AM Subject: Re: LF: BEACON HELL > On 12 May 2008 at 22:46, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > >> Normal amateur bands are the place for radio amateurs to have normal CW >> QSOs. >> >> 500 is not a normal amateur band and you should expect operations to be >> conducted in ways that may offend your narrow definition of how to >> operate. >> > > Oh dear dear dear...... > > Personally, while getting very bored with these petty arguments, > beacons do nothing for me at all and there are plenty of other 500kHz > operators who like me DO like normal QSOs. Quite a lot of those were > active in the early days (and also of 136kHz) who are never heard these > days as they have got disillusioned. There is a place for both beacons > and normal CW QSOs (and data modes as well) on both these bands and to > say otherwise is total nonsense. > > I was going to try and sort out the matching of my 500kHz vertical this > week and get back on the band. I have now lost that enthusiasm, seeing > as it appears there will be nobody for me to work anyway. > > Sorry to see you go John, but really these sorts of arguments do little > to help. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > >