Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-9ef481f7d6d382; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:35:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG011-9ef481f7d6d382; Mon, 05 May 2008 17:34:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Jt8KG-0004r0-Dz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 22:34:24 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Jt8KF-0004qr-Qz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 22:34:23 +0100 Received: from smtp116.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.84.165]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jt8KF-0006du-CF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 22:34:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 34768 invoked from network); 5 May 2008 21:33:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=AYaMu0ZddnquQ3pJKIQJ37B3P6IpQ2ab7CAx9maT8149Cl9gOZosN0wvUYJfBVSf5mLBmV1Lgruzv19iRQwVEswkqHYQnujHwxTzdX+MOBUw6NfwrwT1NCa/ax5JkF7yOPOrg3ehzZCfaOEYMkP9ewPZg3Z1t29tmdLOJhUUAtQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lindavideo) (ken.h.wright@btinternet.com@86.134.100.174 with login) by smtp116.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2008 21:33:55 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bJsqrZUVM1nK2mbxpukPn8YqYXoPsDjn6WUtzRL5GtsBKSKYstLg7_8g_P01FIGn2cieONyRGTGPwjGCw5fefL_vOcbz9_8oKswUE7w6_fbmPDOylRz28rP_642D3MgLWuw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002301c8aef7$b8508920$0201a8c0@lindavideo> From: "Ken" To: References: <6f5efq$bag0ch@ip01.eastlink.ca> <007001c8aef4$ebc5ef50$0301a8c0@g3kev> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:33:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Survival Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Mal. I have still got my slide rule, still working and EMP hardened. 73. Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message ----- From: "mal" To: Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: LF: Re: RE: Survival > No bunkers just cycle around and work /M and this has been done before or > stop and hide behind a hedge, and the manual says do either of two > things, > 1. Turn the bicycle upside down, turn the pedal with one hand to > generate > the electricity and send CW with the other. > or > 2. Sit on bicycle with back wheel raised off the ground on its parking > bracket and pedal in the normal way to generate electricity, manipulate > morse key. > This is a quiet operation either way and avoids detection also cost > effective. > Preferably use low consumption radio tubes to avoid knockout from EMP that > has meantime destroyed all the satellites and associated systems. > Operator qualifications:- > Ability to send and receive morse code, use a soldering iron, able to ride > a > bicycle, mechanically/electrically handy. These are all the things a Radio > Amateur used to be able to do, but todays amateurs DOUBTFUL. > One other thing, learn to do calculations manually ie division, > multiplication, subtraction and some algebra would be useful because your > electronic calculator will also be Zapped by the EMP. > > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vernon Matheson" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:50 PM > Subject: LF: RE: Survival > > >> Do we have to build any bunkers to house the pedal communication system > in? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal >> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 15:43 >> To: rsgb >> Subject: LF: Survival >> >> For reliable communications all that is required is a pedal cycle with a >> stormyarcher dynamo hub a simple TX/RX and a pump action CW KEY and a >> proficient CW OPERATOR. The hardware could be engineered out of scrap and >> operated by a human. >> Although convenient we do not need the Internet, satellites or associated >> systems to communicate, these are vunerable devices and can easily be >> ZAPPED!!! >> In the end the basic devices will prevail, easily concealed, therefore > hard >> to find and destroy. >> >> G3KEV >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: > 03/05/2008 11:22 >> >> > >